Amfa Local 33

[James T. Kirk]

Name: 172
Email:
Employer: NWA
Station: MSPB
Date: Saturday December 04, 2004
Time: 09:43:51 PM

Comments
President Atkinson told me that Local 33 doesn't trust Dell, McCormick or Seeham anymore and have hired their own independent lawyer to start overseeing their legal and contractual issues. I just thought you all should know.

 

[Bob Owens]

Name: 172
Email:
Employer: NWA
Station: MSPB
Date: Saturday December 04, 2004
Time: 09:43:51 PM

Comments
President Atkinson told me that Local 33 doesn't trust Dell, McCormick or Seeham anymore and have hired their own independent lawyer to start overseeing their legal and contractual issues. I just thought you all should know.

[post="226876"][/post]​

So?
Every Local should have their own lawyer because there may be times when the interests of the Local may be somewhat diffeernt than the National or International body. This is especially true when the members do not elect the International body. Many TWU Locals have had their own legal reps for years.

The question is will Delle summarily remove Atkinson like Sonny often did? Has Delle ever been convicted and decribed by the court of a long pattern of "supressing dissent"?

 

[Decision 2004]

Name: Red Mike Quill
Email:
Employer: AA
Station: MCIE
Date: Thursday December 02, 2004
Time: 07:31:51 PM

Comments
President Gordon told me that Local 530 doesn't trust Little, Yingst or Gless anymore and have hired their own independent lawyer to start overseeing their legal issues regarding loss of seniority and breech of contractual agreements relating to promises to keep employed former TWA Mechanics and Overhaul work at the MCIE Maintenance Base. I just thought you all should know.

 

[Drippy Quill]

Name: Red Mike Quill
Email:
Employer: AA
Station: MCIE
Date: Thursday December 02, 2004
Time: 07:31:51 PM

Comments
President Gordon told me that Local 530 doesn't trust Little, Yingst or Gless anymore and have hired their own independent lawyer to start overseeing their legal issues regarding loss of seniority and breech of contractual agreements relating to promises to keep employed former TWA Mechanics and Overhaul work at the MCIE Maintenance Base. I just thought you all should know.

[post="227037"][/post]​

So?
Every Local should have their own lawyer because there may be times when the interests of the Local may be somewhat diffeernt than the National or International body.

 

[Decision 2004]

So?
Every Local should have their own lawyer because there may be times when the interests of the Local may be somewhat diffeernt than the National or International body.

[post="227187"][/post]​

By Cracky Drippy finally gets it!

Call 911 !!!

There has been a breach of a dormant brain.

 

[NWA/AMT]

If we'd stayed in the IAM it wouldn't be an issue because District 143 made all the decisions and Local 1833 was powerless and penniless. Dissent was not permitted.

No thank you.

 

[Hackman]

If we'd stayed in the IAM it wouldn't be an issue because District 143 made all the decisions and Local 1833 was powerless and penniless. Dissent was not permitted.

No thank you.

[post="227295"][/post]​

Same with the twu, dissent is not permitted. You will be tried and found guilty, because you refuse the lies and the sellouts, the big daddy twu International knows whats best for you.

The twu still blames AMFA for the farm-outs and the layoffs at NWA, not the iam that started the trend with the DC-10's to China.

Tell us NWA AMT, who do you blame for the situation?

 

[NWA/AMT]

The twu still blames AMFA for the farm-outs and the layoffs at NWA, not the iam that started the trend with the DC-10's to China.

Tell us NWA AMT, who do you blame for the situation?

[post="227298"][/post]​

Everybody at NWA knows that the farmouts started under the IAM in the 1993 concessionary contract and included no limit on such farmouts. They merely provided for a company/union farmout committee that rarely met and never resolved any issues and for grievances from the members that were never taken to arbitration because the IAM would only do 12 arbitrations per year.

Northwest has been pursuing their goal of farmouts since long before AMFA came on the property and has acknowledged that AMFA's efforts to limit those farmouts have been a setback for them. If the IAM had tried even half as hard as AMFA on the subject, they might still be representing the NWA technicians. Instead they proposed even more farmouts and givebacks in their failed TA in 1998, so we fired them.

If the TWU was right, why do all the AFL-CIO card drives at NWA die so quickly?

 

[local 12 proud]

and if the TWU was right, why are eight carriers now AMFA represented? seems the AFL-CIO is losing a large amount of membership due to their lack of "REPRESENTATION"!

 

[Bob Owens]

and if the TWU was right, why are eight carriers now AMFA represented? seems the AFL-CIO is losing a large amount of membership due to their lack of "REPRESENTATION"!

[post="227327"][/post]​

Seems that the old men of the AFL-CIO dont want to piss off their golfing buddies so they sit back and give concessions. Hey some of these guys barely made it out of high school now they are rolling in six figures and socializing with the big boys. Sonny Hall admitted that he was a lousy worker that should have been fired, but the TWU saved him. Now management loves him, he went from being a burden on the company and his fellow workers to being a burden on the union. Just like the company could not fire him, neither could the members!

It seems that even some of the AFL-CIO unions are saying enough is enough. The Carpenters left, the IAM and the SEIU may also leave.

The SEIU is run by a new breed of union leaders. Educated and committed whereas the TWU is run by a bunch of uneducated morons who have no real ideology or vision. People like Sonny Hall, Mike OBrien, Hubert Snead, John Kerrigan, Mike Baklava,Bobby Gless, and Gary Yingst. These guys know nothing about the labor movement. All they know is they sucked up to the right people and got a good thing going.

We cant change the TWU from within so if we want a future we have to leave. AMFA and the AGW now!

Lets face it, these guys will not change. They dont care what happens to the union, the status quo is good enough for them

 

[seed]

They merely provided for a company/union farmout committee that rarely met and never resolved any issues and for grievances from the members that were never taken to arbitration because the IAM would only do 12 arbitrations per year.

I'm not rehashing issues, just started to read this forum and getting caught up on the issues discussed. This had to have been brought up before, when NWA/AMT stated they had no cap, did they have the ability to grieve 100% of the outsourced work? I read where NWA/AMFA placed a 38% cap on outsourcing. First reaction is of approval, yet once you realize it allows for a full 38% with no grievance procedure available, it makes one question the depth,or direction, of the agreement.

What was NW's outsource percentage prior to this agreement? What is it today? A lot of ifs,ands, or buts, involved in this line of reasoning. Just my thought anyway.

 

[Decision 2004]

I'm not rehashing issues, just started to read this forum and getting caught up on the issues discussed.

[post="233842"][/post]​

SO seed, on December 30, 2004 you claimed that you "just started to read this forum".

Yet, there is documented evidence that this is a LIE.

Here is some proof that you have really been around longer than you claim...

From Eagle Ford Texas?

Posted MARCH 2nd, 2004?

Say it aint so seed.

Why do you feel compelled to lie and hide yourself from the truth?