Airbus sells 61 of the 130 planes that are/will be leased to AA

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700UW

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So much for some of the poster's theory that when the bus is due for its S-Check, that Airbus will just give AA an new one.
 
Per VP  of Aircraft Financing Greco and Ed Russel Aviation reporter for Flight Global.
 
From Airbus in the US.
 
No idea what you're referring to or what the source is...

If you're referring to aircraft that Airbus provided "backstop" financing for, then you win today's "duh" award.

That's the whole point of backstops. The manufacturer guarantees financing for an airline who may present a higher risk, and takes on the task of finding someone to actually own the asset being leased.

Otherwise, feel free to provide a link to whatever it is you're trying to say. I know you know how to post links.
 
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1AA and others were claiming that when the Airbus came up for their S-check, that Airbus would just give them a new plane.

I told them it doesnt work that way.
 
And today per Flight Global and Airbus NA they sold the first 61 planes to another leaseholder and Airbus doesnt own the planes anymore.
 
Edward Russel from Flight Global posted it on his twitter page.
 
700UW said:
1AA and others were claiming that when the Airbus came up for their S-check, that Airbus would just give them a new plane.
I told them it doesnt work that way.
 
And today per Flight Global and Airbus NA they sold the first 61 planes to another leaseholder and Airbus doesnt own the planes anymore.
 
Edward Russel from Flight Global posted it on his twitter page.
It is called a C check not a S check. We do S checks all the time on the line. Again your a ex stock clerk.
 
So another leaseholder is in charge. Again it is leased and do you have access to the propitiatory details of the lease agreement?
 
Aircraft today are being treated like disposable Reynolds wrap aluminum foil.
 
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Wrong,
 
The airbus has an C1-C12 check, then after 5 1/2 years to 6 years depending when the plane was built its gets an S-Check.
 
The C1 through 11 are overnights usually the C12 is a several day check, and the S would be the complete overhaul.
 
How many overhauls has AA done on Airbus narrowbodies, that would be Zero.
 
US has been doing them for over a decade, I think I know what the checks are called as I helped build the work packages for the planes and their checks.
 
The S check is the heavy Structual check on The A320 family and at US is curently done every 3012 days.
 
700 how does it feel to get schooled by eolsen who actually got a real education. not union run seminars
 
700UW said:
Wrong,
 
The airbus has an C1-C12 check, then after 5 1/2 years to 6 years depending when the plane was built its gets an S-Check.
 
The C1 through 11 are overnights usually the C12 is a several day check, and the S would be the complete overhaul.
 
How many overhauls has AA done on Airbus narrowbodies, that would be Zero.
 
US has been doing them for over a decade, I think I know what the checks are called as I helped build the work packages for the planes and their checks.
Who cares what everyone calls them. We at AA have an GPM and our checks are Service Check, 0909, PS, Ack, Bck, Light C and Heavy C and MBV Visit depending on the Aircraft.
 
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Who cares what everyone calls them. We at AA have an GPM and our checks are Service Check, 0909, PS, Ack, Bck, Light C and Heavy C and MBV Visit depending on the Aircraft.
Thank you for breaking it down further. Hopefully others who think they know what they are talking about outside of the M&E field will understand.
 
700UW said:
Wrong,
 
The airbus has an C1-C12 check, then after 5 1/2 years to 6 years depending when the plane was built its gets an S-Check.
 
The C1 through 11 are overnights usually the C12 is a several day check, and the S would be the complete overhaul.
 
How many overhauls has AA done on Airbus narrowbodies, that would be Zero.
 
US has been doing them for over a decade, I think I know what the checks are called as I helped build the work packages for the planes and their checks.
Your are correct AA has done no airbus narrow body C checks because we never had them. USAir has them and they have been farmed out for years. At least AA kept all heavies in house until the BK filing. How many heavies has USAir been doing compared to AA? And I mean HEAVIES not a 4 day drop in maintenance visit.  It makes no difference anymore because the New AA has changed the way we do business.
 
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 I helped build the work packages for the planes and their checks.
I remember when I had to build the work packages for the heavy checks. It was tough. Pulling those thick paper cards off the printer, the endless tearing apart of the different tasks. It was enough to drive a person nuts. It was really bad when I realized they were folded backwards and I had to refold them!

Oh the humanity. It was enough to give me a sick headache and hand cramps all at once. ;)
 
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Farmed out for years?
 
Funny go ask the mechanics in PIT who are performing C and S checks and have been since 2004.
 
C-checks have been done in CLT also.
 
The early build A320 is 5 1/2 years and the newer ones are six years, its not an eight year check.
 
AA has been farming out 757s and now the 777 and others according to your CBA.
 
And 50% of billable heavy maintenance hours must be done in-house at US, at AA they can farm out 35% of ALL your maintenance budget, which is worse that US.
 
You farm out line checks, thats not done at US.
 
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Glenn Quagmire said:
I remember when I had to build the work packages for the heavy checks. It was tough. Pulling those thick paper cards off the printer, the endless tearing apart of the different tasks. It was enough to drive a person nuts. It was really bad when I realized they were folded backwards and I had to refold them!

Oh the humanity. It was enough to give me a sick headache and hand cramps all at once. ;)
That would be us getting all the parts necessary for the checks, not pulling paperwork.
 
Total seat ship sets and every other part needed for the overhaul was pulled in advance by us Stock Clerks.
 
That would be planners who assembled the paperwork and order all the parts from Stores.
 
Dont let the facts get in your way.
 
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