Aa Negotiating To Go Back To Ory
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We only have 2 flights a day from JFK to CDG whearas AF has 5 flights out of JFK and 1 from EWR.....from JFK 3 planes are B777 and 2 747.....
AF planes are full during the summer......and their ticket are more expensive than AA....
Most of our passengers on this line are americans wheras on AF they are french....
I'm sure we will keep our 2 fligts CDG JFK....
As you said before ORY is closer to paris....Concerning the Hotel, there is no so much choice ....
We will see what's happening........and if we are staying in CDG, you'll get use to be on remotes....
AF planes are full during the summer......and their ticket are more expensive than AA....
Most of our passengers on this line are americans wheras on AF they are french....
I'm sure we will keep our 2 fligts CDG JFK....
As you said before ORY is closer to paris....Concerning the Hotel, there is no so much choice ....
We will see what's happening........and if we are staying in CDG, you'll get use to be on remotes....
The french governement doesn't want orly as a 2nd international airport....
If some companies are moving to ORY you can be sure that in few years, these companies will have to move back again to CDG......
Terminal E is close until further notice.....half of terminal one is under renovation.....terminal 3 is only for charter flights and low cost...we are in the summer period that's why the airport is so congested.....in 3 months traffic will slow down....
AF + DGAC (FAA for france) + ADP (company taking care of CDG and ORY airport) = same thing = governement behind everything
American Airlines resists changing Paris airports
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NEW YORK - American Airlines said Friday it is resisting pressure to move its Paris operations out of Charles de Gaulle airport where a roof collapse killed four people.
The world's biggest carrier, owned by AMR Corp., said the French state-run airport management group Aeroports de Paris (ADP) had proposed that it move operations to Orly airport on the other side of Paris.
American Airlines said it was preparing a comprehensive economic analysis in response to show that the move was not "financially viable" and in any case would do little to alleviate congestion.
"ADP has proposed that we move to Orly and we are preparing a study to present to them and showing them why first of all it is not financially viable and second we don't think it would even be a solution to the immediate problems of congestion," said American spokesman Carlo Bertolini.
"We definitely want to assist the authorities overcome the current difficulties there but I can tell you that such a move would be impractical for us and very expensive and would take months of planning before it could be implemented."
The capacity of Charles de Gaulle airport has been cut by around 15% because of the disaster on May 23, when a section of roof of Terminal 2E caved in, killing a Lebanese woman, a Chinese couple, and a Ukrainian woman travelling under a stolen Czech passport.
ADP has temporarily rerouted some of the flights that used the terminal, notably Air France services, to Orly.
The terminal was completed less than a year ago at a cost of 750 million euros (913 million dollars).
In Paris, an airport source, speaking on condition of anonymity, had said American Airlines requested a switch of airports but "financial problems" were holding up a quick response.
That statement was flat wrong, the airline spokesman said.
American Airlines runs twice daily flights between Paris-Charles de Gaulle and New York-JFK, plus daily flights between Paris and Boston, Chicago O'Hare and Miami.
It also runs one daily and one four-times-a-week service between Paris and its main hub at Dallas Fort-Worth.
The carrier's US-France route is serviced by the Boeing 767-300.
According to ADP, Orly is using only around 80% of its total annual capacity of 250,000 flight slots.
AFP
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NEW YORK - American Airlines said Friday it is resisting pressure to move its Paris operations out of Charles de Gaulle airport where a roof collapse killed four people.
The world's biggest carrier, owned by AMR Corp., said the French state-run airport management group Aeroports de Paris (ADP) had proposed that it move operations to Orly airport on the other side of Paris.
American Airlines said it was preparing a comprehensive economic analysis in response to show that the move was not "financially viable" and in any case would do little to alleviate congestion.
"ADP has proposed that we move to Orly and we are preparing a study to present to them and showing them why first of all it is not financially viable and second we don't think it would even be a solution to the immediate problems of congestion," said American spokesman Carlo Bertolini.
"We definitely want to assist the authorities overcome the current difficulties there but I can tell you that such a move would be impractical for us and very expensive and would take months of planning before it could be implemented."
The capacity of Charles de Gaulle airport has been cut by around 15% because of the disaster on May 23, when a section of roof of Terminal 2E caved in, killing a Lebanese woman, a Chinese couple, and a Ukrainian woman travelling under a stolen Czech passport.
ADP has temporarily rerouted some of the flights that used the terminal, notably Air France services, to Orly.
The terminal was completed less than a year ago at a cost of 750 million euros (913 million dollars).
In Paris, an airport source, speaking on condition of anonymity, had said American Airlines requested a switch of airports but "financial problems" were holding up a quick response.
That statement was flat wrong, the airline spokesman said.
American Airlines runs twice daily flights between Paris-Charles de Gaulle and New York-JFK, plus daily flights between Paris and Boston, Chicago O'Hare and Miami.
It also runs one daily and one four-times-a-week service between Paris and its main hub at Dallas Fort-Worth.
The carrier's US-France route is serviced by the Boeing 767-300.
According to ADP, Orly is using only around 80% of its total annual capacity of 250,000 flight slots.
AFP
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AA just picked a new hotel for Paris. Its not the same one we have, too bad. But it is still at the airport. I guess they are planning to stay at CDG, or we are foing to land at ORY and be trucked over to CDG to sleep. Wouldnt that be fun.
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Yea that is pricey, especially since all the people I ever fly with do is go to the city for some wine and baguette at the grocery store. Only the speakers who have friends there go out to visit. I have had a chance to see everything I wanted to see in the city. All I was doing on my layover was the gym and rollerblading. I remember my first trip there and was asking everyone where all the sites were I wanted to see were. No one knew anything. No one had done any of them. The best I got and truth, was a girl who said I think the Eiffel tower is pretty close. You can see it from out side the hotel is you get rooms oon the end.AAStew said:
Mikey,
I am sorry you did not have alot of friends to go out with!!!!
Just this past month, we did a daVinci code Tour....thru the sites in the book. We ended up eating at Le Petit Prince de Paris. Great food and lovely waiters!
Early this month, a pilot friend of mine had his first trip to Paris, so we took him to Notre Dame, Les Halles Area, and dinner in a cute little resto in Ile st Louis.
I always plan something when I go to Paris, for me it is like a mini vacation. One of the perks of this job and the reason I stay.
If you ever are flying there again PM me, and if I am around, I will take you out!
I am sorry you did not have alot of friends to go out with!!!!
Just this past month, we did a daVinci code Tour....thru the sites in the book. We ended up eating at Le Petit Prince de Paris. Great food and lovely waiters!
Early this month, a pilot friend of mine had his first trip to Paris, so we took him to Notre Dame, Les Halles Area, and dinner in a cute little resto in Ile st Louis.
I always plan something when I go to Paris, for me it is like a mini vacation. One of the perks of this job and the reason I stay.
If you ever are flying there again PM me, and if I am around, I will take you out!
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The davinci tour sounds cool. No at this point I have done all I ever wanted to do and see there. Like that I am sure there are a few things I might still enjoy. I am glad you still get out and around. I just dont see the point of going all the way downtown when the vast majority dont leave there rooms. Can be fun when you get someone new to the city, and take them out to see things, Kind of like seeing it again for the first time.
Here is a website that an AA employee has set up. She updates her site occasionally and has a mailing list if you would like updates.
http://www.colleensparis.com/
http://www.colleensparis.com/
It seems to me every major airline serves CDG through T2 : A, B , C or D. Why not move AA to T1, I flew there years ago on a TWA 747 and it was perfectly good. James Bond filmed a movie there and so was Airport '79. T1 has 7 satelites with plenty of room, I would think AA would be perfect in one. T2 is sexy because it newer but its crowded. I can't imagine T1 being crowded since so many airlines have moved to T2.
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AA is pressing ADP (operator of Paris airports) for a good deal, which they certainly did. AA is helping AF and ADP out if they move to ORY and it surely shouldn't cost any of the airlines who move much if anything.
Terminals like the circular one TWA used were very nice. But for one thing...they were designed for smaller aircraft. When TWA had a couple of 747 and maybe 3 L-1011s parked, there was not sufficient space for all the pax inside these terminals. Pax had to wait in the main terminal and ride the moving belt to the aircraft loading area. Crews loved it, you got right on the crew bus off the airplane and were seen through customs as you left the airport. I liked the operation. Everything right at the aircraft, planning, wx, rest area, area for F/As, etc. Got to know station personnel too.
