A320's Assigned To Pit-frankfurt?

[propdoc]

When did the baby bus get ETOPS certified?

According to the Allegheny County Airport Authority, the Pittsburgh-Frankfurt route is serviced by a 142-seat Airbus A-320 jet that averaged 106 passengers per flight in 2003.

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[Phoenix]

When did the baby bus get ETOPS certified?

According to the Allegheny County Airport Authority, the Pittsburgh-Frankfurt route is serviced by a 142-seat Airbus A-320 jet that averaged 106 passengers per flight in 2003.

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[post="169940"][/post]​

I thought all A320s at U are ETOPS.

 

[700UW]

None of them are ETOPS. They are EOW.

 

[N924PS]

I thought all A320s at U are ETOPS.

[post="169979"][/post]​

The Allegheny Airport Authority is either misquoted or grossly uniformed. PIT-FRA has been serviced by Airbus A330-300 aircraft with 266 Pax.(42/224)

Not all of the A320 family are EOW. None of the A321's and only your favorite plane 700 and through 714 are EOW. All A320's are EOW however.

 

[robbedagain]

what is the difference between etops and eow? arent they both for over the water type of aircraft?

 

[700UW]

Extended-range twin-engine operations (ETOPS) have become common practice in commercial aviation over the last 15 years. Maintenance and operational programs for the twinjets used in these operations have received special emphasis, and reliability improvements have been made in certain airplane systems. Many operators are now considering the merits of the ETOPS maintenance program for use with non-ETOPS airplanes.


The ETOPS maintenance approach that can be applied to all commercial airplanes includes:
Engine health monitoring.
Predeparture service check.
Basic and multiple-system maintenance practices.
Event-oriented reliability program.


At US Airways our 767s and A330s are permitted to fly 180 minutes away from the nearest landing strip. It permits shorter routes over the water.

EOW is Emergency Overwater equipped, HF radios, rafts and life vests, it does not permit them to fly 180 minutes away from the nearest landing strip.

 

[Prince of PAWOBs]

This is an interesting topic. And as usual, I have an interesting question or two.

If PIT no longer sees heavy aircraft, what will become of Makeup 8 at mainline? Right now, that particular baggage area handles anything going into a cargo container for 330's and 767's. Now, if PIT no longer handles FRA, LGW or any 767's going to domestic destinations (i.e. PHL), and mainline flights are going to be cut yet again, what do you do with MU8?

For those of you reading that have no idea what I'm talking about, the A and B concourses at PIT each have four baggage areas, connected to the belt system to move bags for loading into carts or containers to be taken planeside. Makeup 8 is in the B concourse, and as far as I remember has always been used for bags going to FRA, LGW and any other heavy flights from PIT.

Perhaps US will move MDA flights down there, since it is closer to their gates on the end of the concourse. Or, perhaps MU1, which is mainline's baggage reroute area, will be moved from the express gates over to MU8.

Here's question #2: Does anyone know what gates at PIT are going to be used by Independence Air when they start operations at PIT? Speculation was that unused gates on the C concourse might be the logical choice, but no one I've talked to seems to know for sure.

 

[lindy]

Extended-range twin-engine operations (ETOPS) have become common practice in commercial aviation over the last 15 years. Maintenance and operational programs for the twinjets used in these operations have received special emphasis, and reliability improvements have been made in certain airplane systems. Many operators are now considering the merits of the ETOPS maintenance program for use with non-ETOPS airplanes.
The ETOPS maintenance approach that can be applied to all commercial airplanes includes:
Engine health monitoring.
Predeparture service check.
Basic and multiple-system maintenance practices.
Event-oriented reliability program.
At US Airways our 767s and A330s are permitted to fly 360 minutes away from the nearest landing strip. It permits shorter routes over the water.

EOW is Emergency Overwater equipped, HF radios, rafts and life vests, it does not permit them to fly 360 minutes away from the nearest landing strip.

[post="170084"][/post]​

700..

Just a few minor corrections to your post..

The most we are certified to operate from land is 180 minutes, not 360 minutes.

EOW stands for Extended Overwater.. this gives us the ability to fly beyond the 60 minutes from a suitable airport.

Lindy

 

[700UW]

your right, I was confused, I meant three hours

 

[balloonguy]

When did the baby bus get ETOPS certified?

According to the Allegheny County Airport Authority, the Pittsburgh-Frankfurt route is serviced by a 142-seat Airbus A-320 jet that averaged 106 passengers per flight in 2003.

Full Article

[post="169940"][/post]​

Some of US' early A-320's are/were "EOW's".

 

[balloonguy]

Extended-range twin-engine operations (ETOPS) have become common practice in commercial aviation over the last 15 years. Maintenance and operational programs for the twinjets used in these operations have received special emphasis, and reliability improvements have been made in certain airplane systems. Many operators are now considering the merits of the ETOPS maintenance program for use with non-ETOPS airplanes.
The ETOPS maintenance approach that can be applied to all commercial airplanes includes:
Engine health monitoring.
Predeparture service check.
Basic and multiple-system maintenance practices.
Event-oriented reliability program.
At US Airways our 767s and A330s are permitted to fly 180 minutes away from the nearest landing strip. It permits shorter routes over the water.

EOW is Emergency Overwater equipped, HF radios, rafts and life vests, it does not permit them to fly 180 minutes away from the nearest landing strip.

[post="170084"][/post]​

"EOW" is "Extended Over Water"!!

 

[BoeingBoy]

In addition to the ETOPS & EOW, there is another that I don't know the name of (if it has one). That's what we use on the 737 for the offshore route to S. Florida jumping off from about ILM. We have the vests, but no HF radios, etc. IIRC, that allows 162 miles from land (not airport) routing as opposed to the old 50 mile limit. Presumably that's what PSA will get authorization for if they're going offshore from CLT to the Bahamas. (Note: on the CLT to S. Fla. routes in the 737 we still use the over-land routing as it's about the same distance)

Jim

 

[700UW]

ALL the A320s are EOW.

 

[BoeingBoy]

What amazes me about the 320 family is that I hear it's not unusual for a non-EOW plane to be put on the N.E. - Caribbean routes and sent on the overland routing. The explaination is that "it only increases the fuel burn a few thousand pounds".

I assume that this is done to balance the time on the planes or for maintenance needs, but it sure seems a waste of fuel (and $$$).

Jim

 

[justaumechanic]

The Allegheny Airport Authority is either misquoted or grossly uniformed. PIT-FRA has been serviced by Airbus A330-300 aircraft with 266 Pax.(42/224)

Not all of the A320 family are EOW. None of the A321's and only your favorite plane 700 and through 714 are EOW. All A320's are EOW however.

[post="170035"][/post]​

Ah one error here.. EOW 101-124, 700-723. US Installed over factory provisions the required equipment for EOW on 715-723. US also looking at adding EOW capability to the remaining A319's. HF being the driver.