Will Parker negotiate

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Will Parker and AA negotiate with the DOJ?. It's clear DOJ is coming after DCSlots. Did DOJ take depositions against UAL or SW in their recent mergers
 
What do slots have to do with Union negotiations? You two posters, especially the one above, are totally out-to-lunch. Your bitterness at being utterly defeated by your "ineffective union" is showing..

Parker has made a great case in the congressional hearings, and , in an article I recently read, has a lot of support from many congress members to keep the slots. Of course, the major opposition is from the Senators and Congressmen from the districts that the competition is in. Big surprise there.

I expect either no mandatory slot transfers, or a very small number to satisfy some loud voices in Congress.
 
What do slots have to do with Union negotiations? You two posters, especially the one above, are totally out-to-lunch. Your bitterness at being utterly defeated by your "ineffective union" is showing..

Parker has made a great case in the congressional hearings, and , in an article I recently read, has a lot of support from many congress members to keep the slots. Of course, the major opposition is from the Senators and Congressmen from the districts that the competition is in. Big surprise there.

I expect either no mandatory slot transfers, or a very small number to satisfy some loud voices in Congress.

Your pilot's association was played and spayed by Parker long ago. Totally ineffective and worthless as a bargaining agent. I hope the APA takes note of the failures.
 
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Please keep this a non pilot thread. It's a discussion on doj and merger possibilities
 
Did DOJ take depositions against UAL or SW in their recent mergers

No, but then neither UAL nor SW controlled over half the slots in a slot-restricted airport at the time of their mergers. Specifically, they did not control over half the slots at DCA. Give it a rest. DCA is a special case. Always has been. Always will be. Remember it used to be called National airport?

No other airport in the U.S. is directly controlled by the U.S. government. So, your question regarding Parker and negotiation is moot. The government does not have to negotiate with Parker or anyone else. If the DOJ decides that slots must be surrendered to the government, slots will be surrendered, or the merger will not go through. End of discussion.

Every member of Congress thinks that there should be non-stop service from DCA to East Podunk, Wherever. (Which just coincidentally happens to be where that particular Congressman lives. Trust me. That route has national security level importance. It's just a coincidence that Senator Foghorn Leghorn happens to live there. :lol:)
 
No, but then neither UAL nor SW controlled over half the slots in a slot-restricted airport at the time of their mergers. Specifically, they did not control over half the slots at DCA. Give it a rest. DCA is a special case. Always has been. Always will be. Remember it used to be called National airport?

No other airport in the U.S. is directly controlled by the U.S. government. So, your question regarding Parker and negotiation is moot. The government does not have to negotiate with Parker or anyone else. If the DOJ decides that slots must be surrendered to the government, slots will be surrendered, or the merger will not go through. End of discussion.

Every member of Congress thinks that there should be non-stop service from DCA to East Podunk, Wherever. (Which just coincidentally happens to be where that particular Congressman lives. Trust me. That route has national security level importance. It's just a coincidence that Senator Foghorn Leghorn happens to live there. :lol:)

I think that you have overlooked the UA/CO combo at EWR....
 
One Sticking Point in World’s Largest Airline Merger

If merger is approved, the new airline will own 68% of Reagan National Airport slots - The sticking point is about whether or not the combined company will agree to sell slots (take off and landing rights) at Reagan National Airport

http://investorplace.com/2013/06/one-sticking-point-in-worlds-largest-airline-merger/


Washington: The Key Battleground of the American-US Airways Merger - The proposed merger between AMR and US Airways is reaching the final stages of the antitrust review process

One of the reasons why many smart investors have historically avoided airline stocks is that it is hard to generate a competitive advantage, or a "moat". Instead of working to create competitive advantages for the new American Airlines, the company's management has essentially asked the government to build a moat for it by giving it a dominant share of the slots at Reagan Airport.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/07/01/washington-the-key-battleground-of-the-american-us/
 
Please keep this a non pilot thread. It's a discussion on doj and merger possibilities

Who is the head of the DOJ and who appointed him and what role did the unions play and the last to elections it is all about politics
 
Didn't LCC acquire DCA slots from DAL last year, in exchange for LGA slots? LCC/AMR could agree to give up a portion of said slots in DCA and be back to square one plus some extra slots and all of the AMR/LCC LGA slots.
 
The talk is they will have to give up the 16 slots from AA.

And of course they will negotiate.
 
Washington: The Key Battleground of the American-US Airways Merger - The proposed merger between AMR and US Airways is reaching the final stages of the antitrust review process

One of the reasons why many smart investors have historically avoided airline stocks is that it is hard to generate a competitive advantage, or a "moat". Instead of working to create competitive advantages for the new American Airlines, the company's management has essentially asked the government to build a moat for it by giving it a dominant share of the slots at Reagan Airport.

http://www.dailyfina...he-american-us/

This article is rife with errors. First, there IS a distinction between "mainline" and "commuter" slots at DCA. An airline cannot simply upgrade to mainline planes if a given route is being served with commuter slots. Second, no one is asking the Government to give it something. US built a nice operation at DCA over many years, investing in facilities, people, the market, etc. AA also built up its operation over many years. Now, US is merging with AA, something our competitive marketplace allows. Third, to imply Southwest Airlines is a disadvantaged low cost carrier is absurd at this point. WN is now the largest carrier in the country by some measures and recently demonstrated that slots can be acquired on the marketplace from other carriers. Fourth, the vast majority of the slots US holds at DCA are "commuter" slots, so will the DOJ require some of those to be divested or some mainline slots where US has a smaller footprint? And I could go on.

That being said, some divestitures will surely be negotiated and all will likely be fine in the end. Some smaller cities will very likely lose service.
 

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