When will 767-323s leave fleet?

[Life_Platinum]

Some of the AA 767-323s are fast approaching the highest time 767-300s with about 104,000 hours on their airframes. I found the highest time 767-300 was taken out of Martainair service almost two years ago with slightly more than 104,000 hours, and that most 767s that have been parted out had only about 65,000 hours on the airframes (i.e. N301AA, N302AA, N610TW etc). Two of the highest time 767-323s (N351AA & N355AA) have been in Tulsa for a few weeks, and I am wondering if there are plans to keep AA's 767-323s flying even when they reach the 104,000 TT mark. If so, I suspect this will set new TT records for the 767s.

 

[bravozulu@afw]

When AA puts into service the 787, then the 767-323 will be phased out to salvage. Until then, AA will continue to painfully maintain the 767 fleet, as it has maintained the costly MD 80 fleet.

When 351 to 359 was last in our dock, alot of corrosion repairs were made in both forward & aft cargoes. A few other internal skin/ stringer repairs were made after 'gouging' scars were found to be beyond limits, caused when sealant and anti corrosive paints were forcibly removed. These repairs caused delays up to a week in the return to service dates. As usual, management blamed the workforce for the delays. But NDT (non destructive testing) crew was NOT called in until the FINAL WEEK (by management).

 

[texasreb]

When AA puts into service the 787, then the 767-323 will be phased out to salvage. Until then, AA will continue to painfully maintain the 767 fleet, as it has maintained the costly MD 80 fleet.

When 351 to 359 was last in our dock, alot of corrosion repairs were made in both forward & aft cargoes. A few other internal skin/ stringer repairs were made after 'gouging' scars were found to be beyond limits, caused when sealant and anti corrosive paints were forcibly removed. These repairs caused delays up to a week in the return to service dates. As usual, management blamed the workforce for the delays. But NDT (non destructive testing) crew was NOT called in until the FINAL WEEK (by management).

The brains at American made a mistake in closing AFW.

 

[Art at ISP]

The lower 300 registration numbers as indicated above are 767-223's. Quite possibly TWA ship 610 is as well. If I am not mistaken, those are some of the first 767's ever built, dating back to the early-mid '80s.

 

[700UW]

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/American%20Airlines-active-b767.htm

A 767-223 is a 767-200, not a 300, 300s, are -323s

 

[1AA]

351 was our first 767-300. 339 was our last 767-200.

 

[dfw gen]

thats the sound of 300 "saved jobs" going way.......

 

[texasreb]

thats the sound of 300 "saved jobs" going way.......

You are correct. The yes vote was for nothing.

 

[Life_Platinum]

Looks like both 351AA and 355AA are back in DFW after spending a couple of weeks in Tulsa for repairs. If AA gets delivery of their 787-9s in 2015, that means that these 2 and other high time767-323s will be over 110,000 hours of total time. I've flown on a lot of aircraft in my years of flying, but I don't think I ever have been on an airplane with 110,000 hours of total time, although there are a few 747 freighters that have exceeded this mark. I suspect these two 767-323s will remain as some of the highest time A/C, and that they will spent even more time at Tulsa to keep them flying. At some point, they will not be able to be repaired, and I wonder when that will be. Two of the 747-206s flew for Southern Air and they were in the range of 135-136,000 hours when they were sent to the boneyard. Can the 767-323s fly that far? Interestingly the highest time 767-223, 320AA, has not flown as far as these two 323s, and U.S Air has a few 767-200s that are over 100,000 hours total time as well.

 

[FWAAA]

AA modified its 787 order last year so that the first 20 of the 42 firm orders will likely be 787-8s which should begin delivery in late 2014.

AA has said that sometime in 2014, it will begin installing the new lie-flat J seats in the 763s and that about half of the fleet will receive the new J seats while the other half (presumably the oldest airframes) will be "retired over time." I would guess that those very old 763s will be parked beginning late 2014.

 

[1AA]

Unless the keel beam of the aircraft runs out of time any aircraft can be maintained to fly. Economics usually send aircraft to a early grave.

 

[eolesen]

I've flown on a lot of aircraft in my years of flying, but I don't think I ever have been on an airplane with 110,000 hours of total time

I know some of AA's DC10-30's were at or above that mark, because going to six digits broke some of screen scraping applications which were reading cycles from FOS. There might have been a couple -10's as well.