USAPA

phlagent

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Disgruntled ALPA members i hear that the pilots are forming a union called USApa, to rid themselves of alpa.
I would like to know who I could contact who is trying to form this union , would like to disguss with them
that the customer service group is fed up with the cwa, and would to know if we would be able to become a part
of the New USAPA union, I feel with customer service and the pilots would be a great combinatin
to fight this stupid company and not pay off the unions to get there way. so your help would be greatly apprecited
and I think the 2 groups would form a strong union and partnership..

Thanks
 
Lets get the mechanics in it too and then the company could never whipsaw us again, like they did in 1992. If one group strikes, everone strikes. It sure would carry a ton of clout.

Here is the web site: www.decertifyalpa.org/default.htm
 
Lets get the mechanics in it too and then the company could never whipsaw us again, like they did in 1992. If one group strikes, everone strikes. It sure would carry a ton of clout.

Here is the web site: www.decertifyalpa.org/default.htm

Just like the mechanics stood up for the cleaners! Union brotherhood at it's best!
 
Let by-gones be by-gones and move on. Those other unions would be history and we could have a powerhouse going forward. I know there is some concern about "seperate crafts", etc. However, we could argue we all work toward dispatch and operation of the airline.
 
How many eligible voting USAirways (east) pilots are there? Last I heard there were something 2300+ cards in for USAPA and I *thought* there were around 5000 pilots total on the list. It sounds like they are close to the 50%+1 number already.
 
More than likely it is a class and craft union for pilots only.
 
At this point in the game all parties should become more active in their respectful unions and show more solidarity rather than run around in circles for another union to represent them. We are all what we make out of our unions. The only exception would be the pilot group. What you ultimately be doing is showing your "company" how weak you are as a group. Why start over and possibly lose everything you have in your collective bargaining agreements. The fleet group has already proved to the IAM that they are the ones running the show right now. Look at the big picture.
 
MEC Alert – September 20, 2007



To: All US Airways Pilots



From: John McIlvenna, AWA MEC Chairman

Jack Stephan, AAA MEC Chairman



US Airways management has asserted that pilots have been “encouraged by crew room posters to participate in a ‘No Fly Day’ planned for September 21.â€



Information has been received that posters were labeled with the USAPA logo. The company threatened USAPA with legal action and financial penalties if it did not take action to inform pilots that it did not support any such job action and USAPA immediately issued a disclaimer on its web site acknowledging that such action “would be a violation of the Railway Labor Act and contrary to the interests of the pilot groupâ€.



The Company has requested that ALPA also inform pilots of the Association’s position. The alleged job actions about which the Company complains have not been requested and are not supported by the Air Line Pilots Association, Intl., for the simple reason that concerted job activity of the type described by management exposes you as an individual to serious legal risk and financial penalties, including discharge from employment at US Airways. It also exposes your union to injunctions, fines and other monetary claims.



This is to inform you that USAPA does not have the resources or authority to represent you should you be disciplined for participating in a so-called “No Fly Day†or any other job action intended to protest our existing workplace terms or conditions. Based on the substantial risk to you, ALPA encourages you not to engage in such activity.
 
MEC Alert – September 20, 2007



To: All US Airways Pilots



From: John McIlvenna, AWA MEC Chairman

Jack Stephan, AAA MEC Chairman




This is to inform you that USAPA does not have the resources or authority to represent you should you be disciplined for participating in a so-called “No Fly Dayâ€￾ or any other job action intended to protest our existing workplace terms or conditions. Based on the substantial risk to you, ALPA encourages you not to engage in such activity.

Your right about one thing. USAPA will not defend any pilot executing a sickout on 9/21. It's not our responsibility to defend pilots we don't represent yet. It's now plainly obvious that this action by design is meant to drag USAPA into a battle that is not our concern. It won't happen. No amount of supposedly "planted" evidence will pass muster with any court. In PHL, I know one person who was passing out the flyers. And he's not a USAPA supporter.

Our only concern and plan of action is to seek a certification election. That is the only area in our scope and responsibility at the moment. ALPA's misguided attempts to place the blame for such an action on a challenger only demonstrates once again the credibility we carry within the pilot group.
 

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