US1612 Diverted this morning.
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It is part of the program, "We're NOT happy until You're NOT Happy". <Nothing more, nothing less.......all in a days work.>
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Actually it was because a passenger had a heart attack onboard.
Classy response though. I'd bet that passenger appreciates it.
robbedagain
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what do you mean by crew legalities? i thought they had to have a second set of crew members flying at all times on all international trips
flygirl74
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PHL to SNN and back only has 2 pilots. On the longer Europe segments a third pilot is required. IRO, international relief officer. So, if the pilots don't get a long enough rest period on the overnight or the flying time is over 8 hours they go illegal. I know, SNN-PHL isn't 8 hours but if the ETOPS capability was inop then they would have to fly a longer path so they could be close to a suitable airport. Boeing Boy correct me if I'm wrong...I just a stewardess.
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Sorry it an All Coach Flight, Envoy Seats are all Taped Off (Broken)Well then, stop chatting and get us our predeparture drink puleeze....
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Basically correct. The FAA just issued a clarification a few days ago - if the flight plan time is over 8 hours, regardless of what the scheduled block time is, you must have an IRO. So if they flew PHL-SNN legally with a 2-pilot crew but the flight plan said over 8 hours coming back, the choice would be to cancel or plan a stop prior to going over 8 hours where a substitute crew could take over.
But I have no idea if that's what happened in this case.
Jim
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Actually, Jim.
The FAA allows a certain percentage to exceed 8+00. It is not a hard figure, but, I did call the CP office and let them know that certain transoceanic flights were exceeding 8+00 by over 50%. A friend at the FAA called me and expressed concern that they might have to shut down certain parts of the US transoceanic operation for that very reason.
I honestly have no idea why the pilots at US (east?) put up with such a shoddy operation. I told my friend that operations have really gone downhill since the "merger". He said they are really looking at the entire US operation, perhaps to close down parts of it.
It appears we have given so many concessions that the company has ignored key parts of the operation.
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hula-flyguy
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You didnt know about the second set of crew required on ALL international?? They're stowed in the overhead on either side of the first row of coach. Shhhh...nobody is supposed to know...it's the edge we have on the competition so that we can keep ALL international flights on time. Think its working??
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