Us Airways Repeats Its Plea For Cost Relief

[USA320Pilot]

The hearing also was notable for a testy exchange between US Airways attorney Brian Leitch and Beth Almeida, an economist for the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers union.

She argued the interim cuts are "unnecessary," that the IAM is being "singled out" and the union, short of reopening its contract, has been willing to talk about other ways to save the company money.

But, when questioned by Leitch, Almeida conceded the company has never refused to sit down with the IAM and agreed the airline does have to lower its costs between now and winter.

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[totobird]

Lets be honest here folks. We all know the judge is going to grant the pay cuts the company has asked for. What other choice does he have ?
If he decides not to and the company goes Chapter 7 he will have cost the jobs of 28,000 plus employees. To grant the cuts at least gives us a fighting chance.

 

[bobcat]

Yea, and probably 3/4 of those 28,000 employees don't give a damn any more and don't have the desire or energy to fight any longer. They just want it to be over.

 

[robbedagain]

Lets be honest here folks. We all know the judge is going to grant the pay cuts the company has asked for. What other choice does he have ?
If he decides not to and the company goes Chapter 7 he will have cost the jobs of 28,000 plus employees. To grant the cuts at least gives us a fighting chance.

[post="190372"][/post]​

if the judge say for example doesnt grant the cuts and the company liqiudates, how will he even be able to sleep at night knowingly that he had costed 28000 jobs and put a damper into the econmy? i think that he may well grant it becuase he has said that he wants to see the airline survive and become a viable competitor.

 

[PITbull]

He will impose wage relief for the company, but doesn't mean it will be at 23% for 6 months.

The judge did not say he wanted to see the company survive to be a viable competitor in court.

He implied he wanted to see the company survive, but wants to be fair and hear the arguments. That was his response to Leitch.

You folks imply here that if the company had motioned for 75% wage reductions that the judge would have no choice but to grant it, because the company needs cash reserves to survive.

Hell, why not motion for us to come to work for no compensation for 60 days. Company will keep their cash reserves in tact and probably show a profit.

But, then again, probably not. B)

 

[eolesen]

how will he even be able to sleep at night knowingly that he had costed 28000 jobs and put a damper into the econmy?

[post="190465"][/post]​

Let's be clear, folks -- the Judge isn't responsible for those 28,000 jobs regardless of how he rules. He's responsible for making sure that the people who provided credit to the company get paid as much as possible.

Nothing more, nothing less.

If 28,000 people go out on the street, but the creditors receive 70% instead of 20% of what they're owed, he's done his job.

Also, there won't be a loss of 28,000 jobs. If US shut their doors tomorrow, the net job losses would be offset by growth at other carriers. It won't be a 1:1 offset, but it certainly won't put a damper in the economy.

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

USA320PILOT Repeats his Plea For Cost Relief

 

[Light Years]

USA320PILOT Repeats his Plea For Cost Relief

[post="190540"][/post]​

LOL

 

[firstamendment]

LOL

[post="190555"][/post]​

ditto

 

[UseYourHead]

Didn't our PIT ALPA Rep suggest we work for tips...maybe that will work for the AFA as well?

We shall see soon just how close you are PitBull...good luck to us all.

He will impose wage relief for the company, but doesn't mean it will be at 23% for 6 months...

Hell, why not motion for us to come to work for no compensation for 60 days. Company will keep their cash reserves in tact and probably show a profit.

[post="190467"][/post]​

 

[Rico]

Mitchell offered no hints yesterday as to his state of mind, other than to say that a question he will have to consider is whether a 23 percent pay cut would "result in a huge exodus of employees voting with their feet."

Being as there are layed off workers in every job classification, this is not something that would hurt the company, probably help things if anything.

Pretty sure there would be an even larger exodus of employees if this place ceases to exist...

 

[FA Mikey]

Didn't our PIT ALPA Rep suggest we work for tips...maybe that will work for the AFA as well?

We shall see soon just how close you are PitBull...good luck to us all.

[post="190631"][/post]​

Its not so far feched. At AA some of the foreign based f/a's were caught doing just that. The famous tip jar on the bev and meal carts. Selling the F/C table ware and my favorite, the made to order ice cream sundies left over from first.

 

[Finish or Ignore]

how will he even be able to sleep at night knowingly that he had costed 28000 jobs and put a damper into the econmy?

[post="190465"][/post]​

How do Wolf and Gangwal sleep at night? Very well!!

 

[delldude]

But, when questioned by Leitch, Almeida conceded the company has never refused to sit down with the IAM and agreed the airline does have to lower its costs between now and winter.

oh right you are captain.....so right you are.....
however you aren't privy to what transpired in those meetings....
much like the proposals your much loved RC4 brought back....you know,getting worse each time (to soften and scare those of you with no spine)....IAM was told their cost targets were way off and too low....(sound familiar 320??) so don't attempt to infer that IAM did not stand up for their's.
so please, sir....keep your muted attempts at assassination well within your own labor group...we can take care of our own.
BTW- how do you like roethlisberger?

 

[CynicalResAgent]

The sad truth is that the fact that the company needs a judge to impose pay cuts testifies to the horrible relations they have with their employees....

Think of all the money they could have saved in legal fees and loss of revenue from the public booking away if they had of actually negotiated rather than the heavy handed "Glass" approach that they took...... that landed U back in Ch11 all over again.

How much could they had of saved had they negotiated a 5-8% cut back in April or May?

No they wait till we have nothing left, try to force a 23% cut and now that might not even be anough to save the company