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desperation

\Des`per*a"tion\, n. [L. desperatio: cf. OF. desperation.] 1. The act of despairing or becoming desperate; a giving up of hope.

This desperation of success chills all our industry. --Hammond.

2. A state of despair, or utter hopeless; abandonment of hope; extreme recklessness; reckless fury.

In the desperation of the moment, the officers even tried to cut their way through with their swords. --W. Irving.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


desperation

n 1: a state in which everything seems wrong and will turn out badly; "they were rescued from despair at the last minute" [syn: despair] 2: desperate recklessness; "it was a policy of desperation"
 
Hopeful said:
TWU:


desperation

\Des`per*a"tion\, n. [L. desperatio: cf. OF. desperation.] 1. The act of despairing or becoming desperate; a giving up of hope.

This desperation of success chills all our industry. --Hammond.

2. A state of despair, or utter hopeless; abandonment of hope; extreme recklessness; reckless fury.

In the desperation of the moment, the officers even tried to cut their way through with their swords. --W. Irving.


Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.


desperation

n 1: a state in which everything seems wrong and will turn out badly; "they were rescued from despair at the last minute" [syn: despair] 2: desperate recklessness; "it was a policy of desperation"
Here's one for ya Hopeful....!


Idiot

(id'iyet)

n. 1. A very foolish or very stupid person. Ex. ( He is behaving like an idiot )

n. 2. One who is often not able to learn much, often because of the condition of his brain.

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AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!
 
As yes we can see the connection between all three words; TWU = desperate idiot!

Thanks for adding that HSS.
 
Hi Bob...ya got that idiot word down pretty good...now take it off your nametag dummie. Where do you hurt Bob, show the good doctor. Just shut your eyes biggun and yell "supersize it!"
 
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High Speed Steel:

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+ anus; detrimental person second meaning very common nowadays. 'Mary thinks that John is an ####.'
 
Hopeful said:
High Speed Steel:

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+ anus; detrimental person second meaning very common nowadays. 'Mary thinks that John is an ####.'
Hopeful, Bob's comment was better, I even got a laugh out of it! By the way, if you had pulled your bottom lip over your head and swallowed as I had suggested you do the other day you may have a better perspective of what an anus is, since you should have passed through it on your way back....!

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AMFA: The YUGO of the labor movement
Where bargaining means YOU GO....!
 
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I posted the definiton of desperation. Nothing insulting to any one person. But I see you need to resort to insults. If you are calling me an idiot, then I'm not going to respond to you.
 
Johnny Lunchbox said:
Hi Bob...ya got that idiot word down pretty good...now take it off your nametag dummie. Where do you hurt Bob, show the good doctor. Just shut your eyes biggun and yell "supersize it!"
jl, the twu has the word concessions down pretty well too. And the only one that is super sizing anything is the twu with their concessions and level of socialism and unaccountability.
 
Bob Owens said:
As yes we can see the connection between all three words; TWU = desperate idiot!

Thanks for adding that HSS.
So why would you want to be associated with "desperate" people?
 
Hopeful said:
I posted the definiton of desperation. Nothing insulting to any one person. But I see you need to resort to insults. If you are calling me an idiot, then I'm not going to respond to you.
Gee, you just happened to have cut 'n pasted the definition? Hopeful, you are what Eric Hoffer would describe as a True Believer. On top of that you can't read between the lines. Which is why you seem to think that posting that definition had no meaning or application to anyone.
 
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j7915 said:
Gee, you just happened to have cut 'n pasted the definition? Hopeful, you are what Eric Hoffer would describe as a True Believer. On top of that you can't read between the lines. Which is why you seem to think that posting that definition had no meaning or application to anyone.
That's right. I cut and pasted the definition to describe the TWU. Can you say that calling someone or something desperate is the same as calling them an idiot?

I can't see why I am an idiot for posting the definition of "desperation"

And as far as desperation goes, the TWU through their phone calls to members' homes and through the US Postal Service, have shown they are not too confident about winning the election. Maybe had I mentioned why I posted the definition of "desperation" in relation to the TWU, I would have been spared the "idiot" label.
 
Hopeful said:
That's right. I cut and pasted the definition to describe the TWU. Can you say that calling someone or something desperate is the same as calling them an idiot?

I can't see why I am an idiot for posting the definition of "desperation"

And as far as desperation goes, the TWU through their phone calls to members' homes and through the US Postal Service, have shown they are not too confident about winning the election. Maybe had I mentioned why I posted the definition of "desperation" in relation to the TWU, I would have been spared the "idiot" label.
Dont sweat the name calling. It simply means that they have no other way of responding. They have no arguement or facts to defend why we should stay with the TWU.

Besides it just helps to degrade the TWU when they answer legitimate questions with insults and attacks, like we see on the "Question for the TWU" and the "Mechanics pay vs CPI" threads.

By next week the process to remove the TWU will have officially started. Hopefully by the Summer the Mechanics, industrywide will be that much stronger as we continue the process of consolidation into a mechanics union. Its the way it should be, it should have been done 50 years ago. Hopefully our coworkers will follow in our path and do the same with the AGW. This way the workers who brave the elements, work the weekends and the holidays will be the ones making the money instead of just the airlines and the crooked union officers who collect two paychecks as they sell us down the river.

There are far too many different unions in this industry, and none of them, whether affiliated or not, work in any meaningful capacity cooperatively. The only way for us to fix this is to start from the ground up. We have Amfa, which is already in place, the other workers have the opportunity to try and build a longshoremans type union with the AGW.
 
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Bob, you're right about the name calling. What else would you expect from Flag staffed coffin bearers.
 
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