This says it well

[luvthe9]

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/ne...se,109893.shtml

 

[aquagreen73s]

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/ne...se,109893.shtml

I wonder if Earthtimes.org will do a follow-up on why the East MEC and their sheeple followers are the best things that ever happened to Doug. Now he has the perfect excuse.

 

[28yrsnojob]

:down: Time for alpa,iam,afa,cwa too get a set of ba44s
and walk , you will see how fast they sit down to talk.
investors will make them sit or they will be out on the street fast.

 

[aquagreen73s]

:down: Time for alpa,iam,afa,cwa too get a set of ba44s
and walk , you will see how fast they sit down to talk.
investors will make them sit or they will be out on the street fast.

Ever since the Nicolau award was posted, we've missed you on the Yahoo boards. Want to explain to us again why "DOH is the only way"?

 

[robbedagain]

when would be a good time for the BOD to the inept mgmt the door? they have had so much ample time to get FAIR DEALS in place and yet they cant cope with the littlest damest thing. what a bunch of pathetic morons running usairways

 

[aquagreen73s]

when would be a good time for the BOD to the inept mgmt the door? they have had so much ample time to get FAIR DEALS in place and yet they cant cope with the littlest damest thing. what a bunch of pathetic morons running usairways

But the East doesn't care anymore about a fair deal. It's all about the Nic award and their new rally cry to burn the place down if that's what it takes. I hope Doug at least puts Arnie Gentile on his Christmas card list.

 

[US1YFARE]

To be very honest there are times when I hope they lose at every turn and out of raw emotion shut the place down permanently. Do the Customers and the remaining employees a big favor and put the company out of it's misery.

Amen. It is so much different than during BK2...now, no one cares if the airline shuts down. If the new US is what a second chance looks like, no thank you.

 

[as the prop turns]

Don't be so casual and flip. This is serious crap here. US East ALPA could very well put the company out of business and I think they might just be willing to do it.

To be very honest there are times when I hope they lose at every turn and out of raw emotion shut the place down permanently. Do the Customers and the remaining employees a big favor and put the company out of it's misery.

Sell the primo assets like the gates at PHL, DCA, BOS, PIT and LGA to CO and let us get on with life.

I really just don't see how the ship gets righted. Lord knows I tried to make a difference. Clearly that was a failed effort.

Piney

We at US Air will be forever grateful for everything you and Art have done and are continuing to do. However, I know that you and many of our Elite pax have had it. As you know, the senior employees of this company have tried desperately to reason with these people to no avail. We just don't know what to do anymore.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Nobody wants to see US Airways burn to the ground.

In the case of the East pilots they simply want a fare seniority integration award. I believe a deal can be obtained between the parties that includes fences, shared future growth, and scope protection. If not things will get very ugly for the East and West pilots.

I found it encouraging that at today's ALPA Executive Council (EC) meeting ALPA president John Prater told the body that "the EC must find a solution to the problem (Nicolau Award) or there would be dire consequences."

Meanwhile, it is my understanding members of the EC believe they do have the authority to set aside the Nicolau Award if they believe it violates ALPA Merger Policy. Will they do that? Maybe, maybe not, but we should know within the next 24 to 48 hours.

In my opinion, I believe the EC will try to negotiate a settlement deal with the two MEC's, which I indicated last week. This was confirmed yesterday by John Prater when he told a large group of US Airways pilots, "ALPA National would attempt to negotiate a settlement between the two groups but that probably no one would be happy with the outcome."

But, will either rank-and-file group accept the result?

Meanwhile, I believe it is unlikely the company will actively pursue new collective bargaining agreements with the other unions until the ALPA situation is resolved. Thus, this could take some period of time to get labor and the company rowing in the same direction.

In the end, I believe there will be a resolution to the ALPA seniority award, which permits all of the unions to move forward or the decertification of ALPA and an ugly fight could unfold that could cause the airline to fail.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[US1YFARE]

Nobody wants to see US Airways burn to the ground.

there is a difference between wanting to see the airline burn to the ground and not caring if that is the end result and risking what you need to.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Do the Customers and the remaining employees a big favor and put the company out of it's misery.

For the rest of us who"do not have a dog in this fight" it does not do me a favor. How ironic(or moronic) that after uncounted give backs,2 BKs and working w/ so many miserable people that with the light at the end of the tunnel(I was hoping it wasn't another oncoming train)that we would be talking about professional and corporate suicide. I just have to shake my head. As I have seen before "talk is cheap". I only hope that this time this is true. I do worry about that one person who REALLY has hit bottom and could cause a lot of damage. The hysteria on this board makes me nervous. You normally look at the front end and see analytical? engineering types who are good at what the do. I can't help but remember Paso Robles. I hope this thing will be settled but the talk coming from some people is really not good.