SCOTUS Ruling on Agency Fee: Future Impact?

[eolesen]

Today's ruling stopped short of reversing or challenging the Abood decsion which requires agency fees for those eschewing union membership, but could this just be the start?...

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2014/06/30/scotus-limits-union-power-to-collect-dues

The Politico story below was written yesterday, before the ruling came out.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/supreme-court-unions-108419.html

If there are other cases already in the lower courts, it may just be a matter of time before agency fee winds up back on the docket.

 

[Kev3188]

Here's the brief, for those that are interested...
 
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/11-681_j426.pdf
 
My guess is that it winds up back on the docket in one form or another at some point. Maybe by "stopping short," it allows just enough wiggle room to do so? I dunno.

 

[eolesen]

Interesting summary of the decision by Ed over at HotAir -- read the section where Abood may be revisited and/or overturned.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/30/harris-v-quinn-more-important-than-hobby-lobby/

I think the headline is quite correct. All that the Hobby Lobby case did was allow certain employers to drop the mandated 5 post-fertilization & abortion inducing drugs from their plans. The ruling still requires them to keep the 16 other types of pre-fertilization contraceptives in the mandate).

This labor relations ruling seems to be far more reaching...

Another good write-up on why the ruling came out as it did... Minnesota tried what Illinois did:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/13/forced-unionization-of-in-home-care-workers-back-on-minnesota-agenda/

 

[PHXConx]

Interesting summary of the decision by Ed over at HotAir -- read the section where Abood may be revisited and/or overturned.

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/06/30/harris-v-quinn-more-important-than-hobby-lobby/

I think the headline is quite correct. All that the Hobby Lobby case did was allow certain employers to drop the mandated 5 post-fertilization & abortion inducing drugs from their plans. The ruling still requires them to keep the 16 other types of pre-fertilization contraceptives in the mandate).

This labor relations ruling seems to be far more reaching...

Another good write-up on why the ruling came out as it did... Minnesota tried what Illinois did:

http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/13/forced-unionization-of-in-home-care-workers-back-on-minnesota-agenda/

This is correct, hobby lobby didn't sue over the other 16 contraceptives. they have also been providing them to their employees.. you wouldnt know that if you listened to the pundits today

 

[eolesen]

Nope. That would require journalistic integrity and honesty in reporting.... But let's not get sidetracked.

 

[700UW]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOTERKsX6Ig&list=UU8w-r9ncSLE-VyQMR3nZbrw&feature=share

 

[eolesen]

I have to wonder how badly the SEIU screwed up here.

They didn't just lose a case. The decision is quite critical of all of the case law (e.g. Hanson and Abood) by which the agency fee came from, and equally critical of the lack of accountability on auditing how agency fee gets calculated.

As soon as there's a follow-on challenge by either a full time state employee, a non-member in a non-RTW state or a non-member covered by the RLA, then the Harris decision may wind up opened the door to seeing Abood overturned.

 

[jimntx]

Though I agree that no one should be required to pay union dues, I have a problem with those ""conscientious objectors" who expect the same pay and benefits as the represented employees who pay the dues, and who (the objectors) expect the union to protect them if they screw up and get fired.  You are either a union employee or you are not.  If you don't want to pay for a union, fine.  However, you make yourself an employment at will person who can be fired for any reason that does not violate Federal or state anti-discrimination laws--up to and including the fact that your supervisor doesn't like you because you are too friggin' cheerful in the morning.   You don't pays your money, you take your chances.

 

[777 fixer]

This is correct, hobby lobby didn't sue over the other 16 contraceptives. they have also been providing them to their employees.. you wouldnt know that if you listened to the pundits today

 
I think Hobby Lobby playing the Christian card smacks of hypocrisy.  Evidently I'm not the only one
 
http://theweek.com/article/index/263225/stop-calling-hobby-lobby-a-christian-business

 

[700UW]

 

[cltrat]

maybe it was about power like obama and his govt henchmen staying the f out of peoples life

 

[SparrowHawk]

Once again Ron Paul brings reason to silliness. Listen and Learn.
 
http://rare.us/story/ron-paul-slams-the-left-over-hobby-lobby-wants-and-rights-are-two-different-things/

 

[Kev3188]

Alternet has a piece comparing Harris decision to the Dred Scott case:
 
http://www.alternet.org/scotus-reactionary-decision-harris-v-quinn-new-version-infamous-dred-scott-decision?akid=11980.1125172.AIC5Rx&rd=1&src=newsletter1008999&t=11

 

[eolesen]

What's been left out of all of the pearl clutching is that there's nothing preventing those workers from paying the dues voluntarily.

That's why the more and more I think about it, SEIU really, really screwed up.

 

[Kev3188]

Wouldn't be the first time...