Nwa Saga Continues!

[Checking it Out]

For those techs at NWA in the wheel and brake shop soon to be closed. Your jobs are going to Honeywell in Memphis. Saw ad in paper $12 bucks an hour A@P preferred but not required...Also don't be afraid to get dirty.


JUST FYI,
LAX, JUST LAID OFF 8 MORE CLEANERS AND CONTRACTED OUT ALL BUT NIGHT SHIFT. SAD. I GUESS AMFA WASN'T AS ALMIGHTY AS WE THOUGHT. AMFA HAD FILED A GRIEVANCE AGAINST THE IAM OVER LAVS AND WATER AND WON. BUT THEN NWA CONTRACTED IT OUT. HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IF YOUR A CLEANER, YOU BETTER START LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB. MSP YOUR NEXT. ALSO HEARD MANY LAYOFFS COMING AT END OF SUMMER. MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT TRUE BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, THE FALL OF 2004 COULD BE ONE BIG FALL. GO AMFA, GO IAM? WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER WHEN YOU HAVE NO JOBS TO REPRESENT.

I am totally dismayed by the recent AMFA Memorandum regarding a grievance database. While I agree that all grievances should be digitized and stored on a database, I can hardly believe that AMFA is considering entering into an agreement with an outside firm to do so. We have plenty of computer literate technicians and cleaners off of payroll, we ought to be able to find a few to do this simple task with the aid of a hundred dollars worth of software. This must be a sick ironic joke or evidence of a cabal of featherbedding swindlers. Here we are protesting the outsourcing of our work while we farm out simple data processing that could be done by the membership. I've seen it all.


This is a never ending story!!!! Just think the lies and half-truths Amfa portrays has the amfa wannabes brained washed!!! I wonder if they ever can be truly honest and see the road they are attempting to take us down!!!!!

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

For those techs at NWA in the wheel and brake shop soon to be closed. Your jobs are going to Honeywell in Memphis. Saw ad in paper $12 bucks an hour A@P preferred but not required...Also don't be afraid to get dirty.

Funny I remember when the twu/company shut down the wheel shop at LGA.
Gave the work away to an outside vendor. That led to at least 7 or 8 steady day shift spots lost. Seems like the twu is first in concessions and job loss. That happened back in 95. The twu a leader in concessionary contracts. AA mechs the second lowest paid in the industry.

Thanks for my job twu I am for ever grateful. h34r:

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

JUST FYI,
LAX, JUST LAID OFF 8 MORE CLEANERS AND CONTRACTED OUT ALL BUT NIGHT SHIFT

Again the twu/company got rid of the the entire night shift of cabin cleaners in MIA and farmed out the whole ball of wax. That was about a year ago. The twu/company did the same at LGA 5 years back. So what is your point bright eyes.

:blink:

 

[Checking it Out]

To date no one at NWA has ANY HOPE OF BEING RECALLED!

In Fact NWA wants an additional 1000 positions or 10% increase in farm out rights! With the piss-poor turnout at the RO rally I can see NWA will get what ever they want! It looks to be the rally did a lot of good!!!!!

 

[James T. Kirk]

Name: EX-CLEANER
Email:
Employer: NWA
Station: NONE NOW!
Date: Monday July 12, 2004
Time: 09:09:17 PM

Comments
JUST FYI,
LAX, JUST LAID OFF 8 MORE CLEANERS AND CONTRACTED OUT ALL BUT NIGHT SHIFT. SAD. I GUESS AMFA WASN'T AS ALMIGHTY AS WE THOUGHT. AMFA HAD FILED A GRIEVANCE AGAINST THE IAM OVER LAVS AND WATER AND WON. BUT THEN NWA CONTRACTED IT OUT. HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IF YOUR A CLEANER, YOU BETTER START LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB. MSP YOUR NEXT. ALSO HEARD MANY LAYOFFS COMING AT END OF SUMMER. MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT TRUE BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, THE FALL OF 2004 COULD BE ONE BIG FALL. GO AMFA, GO IAM? WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER WHEN YOU HAVE NO JOBS TO REPRESENT.

 

[TonyB]

The TWU allowed the company to ELIMINATE fuelers in 1995. In 1995 also, the TWU allowed the company to ELIMINATE hundreds of building cleaners and out source their jobs.
Now we have contract cabin cleaners cleaning AA airplanes on night shift and on the hard stands on day shift and Rockwell Collins working on the entertainment systems at DFW.
CIO, you need to clean up your own back yard before you talk about you neighbor's back yard, you big dummy!

TWU LEADS THE WAY...IN CONCESSIONS! :down: :down:

 

[Bob Owens]

According to a newspaper article I read last month AA spends more on outsourcing than any other airline, in fact they spend more on outsourcing than several other airlines spend on all of maintenance!

 

[Buck]

For those techs at NWA in the wheel and brake shop soon to be closed. Your jobs are going to Honeywell in Memphis. Saw ad in paper $12 bucks an hour A@P preferred but not required...Also don't be afraid to get dirty.

$12 an hour to start? Thats just about $3 more an hour than the TWU represented OSM makes for that job.

CIO, you slam these technicians for taking working at a higher rate of pay than the TWU can provide.

 

[Bob Owens]

$12 an hour to start? Thats just about $3 more an hour than the TWU represented OSM makes for that job.

CIO, you slam these technicians for taking working at a higher rate of pay than the TWU can provide.

The TWU contracted out our tire shops at JFK and LGA back in 95. They contracted out our container shop too. Altogether we lost around 40 day shift with weekends off slots, never to return. Now we only have around three guys with days and weekends off. So we lost over 90% of our days with weekends off slots thanks to the TWU.

Looks like NWA is still 9 years behind the TWU in contracting out!

 

[Thrustfuljet]

Funny how you twu loosers never mention the $43 dollars an hour the Southwest mechanics have been offered by their management.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

Dont forget the farmout of the auto shop stores department. An outside vendor now runs the stores department for the auto shop. How many jobs were lost there. The twu years ahead of the curve in contract concessions.

 

[1AA]

For those techs at NWA in the wheel and brake shop soon to be closed. Your jobs are going to Honeywell in Memphis. Saw ad in paper $12 bucks an hour A@P preferred but not required...Also don't be afraid to get dirty.


JUST FYI,
LAX, JUST LAID OFF 8 MORE CLEANERS AND CONTRACTED OUT ALL BUT NIGHT SHIFT. SAD. I GUESS AMFA WASN'T AS ALMIGHTY AS WE THOUGHT. AMFA HAD FILED A GRIEVANCE AGAINST THE IAM OVER LAVS AND WATER AND WON. BUT THEN NWA CONTRACTED IT OUT. HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IF YOUR A CLEANER, YOU BETTER START LOOKING FOR A NEW JOB. MSP YOUR NEXT. ALSO HEARD MANY LAYOFFS COMING AT END OF SUMMER. MAYBE OR MAYBE NOT TRUE BUT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, THE FALL OF 2004 COULD BE ONE BIG FALL. GO AMFA, GO IAM? WHAT THE HECK DOES IT MATTER WHEN YOU HAVE NO JOBS TO REPRESENT.

I am totally dismayed by the recent AMFA Memorandum regarding a grievance database. While I agree that all grievances should be digitized and stored on a database, I can hardly believe that AMFA is considering entering into an agreement with an outside firm to do so. We have plenty of computer literate technicians and cleaners off of payroll, we ought to be able to find a few to do this simple task with the aid of a hundred dollars worth of software. This must be a sick ironic joke or evidence of a cabal of featherbedding swindlers. Here we are protesting the outsourcing of our work while we farm out simple data processing that could be done by the membership. I've seen it all.


This is a never ending story!!!! Just think the lies and half-truths Amfa portrays has the amfa wannabes brained washed!!! I wonder if they ever can be truly honest and see the road they are attempting to take us down!!!!!

Not to burst your bubble CIO, but since you don't work the line let me give you some sad news, Our 737 tires are outsourced to Honeywell Aircraft landing systems in Houston Texas. You get what you pay for. I have changed numerous nose wheel tires prematurely due to nose wheel shimmy at high speeds. We really save money here. Delays, man power, shipping tires back, etc...
Have a nice outsourced day.

 

[Checking it Out]

1AA, you are not bursting my bubble, Have you filled out the Engineer reveiw paperwork each time to make AA aware of the problem? Many times we change items knowing the frequency has increased due to lessor quality standards. If a pattern is established and we show a savings due to defects it will be benificial to us all.

Sounds like a manufacture problem and could cause undue wear on the front of the A/C.

 

[Buck]

Have you filled out the Engineer reveiw paperwork each time to make AA aware of the problem?

CIO: Are you trying to tell us that the company has no idea the number of tire changes the mechanics are performing on their aircraft?

If the company cannot keep track of this item, what makes you believe that they know or care how much work is outsourced?

 

[Checking it Out]

Sounds to me, you are allowing AA to continue! Maybe you should go to work at Amfa!!!!