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Nobody seems to point out that major, land locked airports with ridiculously short runways and population residing immediately beyond the perimeter is a recipe for disaster, and will be again soon.
Once I come off reserve, I will actively avoid bidding MDW. I don't have a death wish, thankyouverymuch.
In KC, we figured out in the sixties that our 7000+ foot rwy in an urban area was no longer suited to major airport operations and were only too happy to move to a bigger, safer facility after similar accidents there, thankfully with no fatalities.
MDW needs either a major expansion or restrictions on movements (or both) or people will continue to lose lives.
A "death wish"? Come on.
If you can't deal with short runways, maybe you should turn in your pilot's license.
If you (as a passenger or a F/A) want to reduce the chances of being involved in an accident/incident involving running off the end of a runway, then avoiding MDW would certainly do that. From a pilot's perspective, it's not that easy. Let's say I'm going to PHF (Newport News, VA). There are two runways there. 7/25 is about 9000 ft. long. As we're approaching the airport, I'm informed that another aircraft is disabled on 7/25, leaving me the options of landing on the only other runway (2/20), which is a little less than 6000 (IIRC) ft. or diverting. At this point, I would pull out our paperwork and see how much distance it tells me I'll need to land (if I'm a test pilot, flying a perfect airplane, flying a perfect approach, etc.). I'll compare that distance to the usable length of the runway, think about how much sleep I got last night and how I'm presently feeling, etc., and make my decision. Remember, when I departed for PHF, I had plenty of runway; now I don't.I'm not a pilot... I'm an f/a.
My point is that with runways that are that short, it is only a matter of time before there is another accident during abnormal conditions, and I'd rather not increase my likelihood of being involved in it. This is assuming we ignore the lessons learned from this incident and do nothing about it. Aviation safety is principled on constant improvement, lowering probabilities, and increasing your knowledge base by applying solutions to known causes. It makes sense to do something about MDW now before it happens again, and currently there is nothing to stop it from happening again.
I understand your point about the distance between the end of the runways at MDW and the adjacent roads. But, that situation already exists at many airports. If you go off the end of 27R at FLL, it's only a matter of seconds before you're barreling across 8 or so lanes of I-95. The difference is, of course, the length of 27R at FLL is much longer than any runway at MDW. But, as I stated in my first post, if I don't do my job properly, and/or if things on the aircraft don't work as advertised, I would not only go off the end of 27R in FLL, I'd probably cause a lot more damage at FLL than at MDW (due to more people, usually, being on I-95 compared with Cicero).Thanks for your post, citrus...
I certainly agree that going off the end of the runway is never an ideal situation. LIT, YYZ, and all those other overruns all have had their own drawbacks, runway length notwithstanding. The most regrettable thing about MDW, however, is like Res said, it is so tightly packed in that overshooting is most certainly going to result in injuries, such as the death of the young boy in this particular case.
I think, that because the length of the runways is such that the likelihood of a similar accident happening again is greater under similar circumstances, something ought to be done (for example) about the buffer zone (or lack thereof) between the threshold and the intersection of 63rd and Cicero. If not, then weather/slot restrictions should be employed, or perhaps companies such has WN should take a more responsible approach to serving MDW or perhaps even reconsider serving it at all. After all, wasn't ORD supposed to be the jet-age replacement for MDW once upon a time?
Just my opinion.
- astra
One death, while unfortunate, is very little considering the number of MDW flights over its history. MDW is not a dangerous airport. It's a tiny fraction of a percent less safe than DEN and DFW, big deal.
With pie-in-sky standards for runways, there would be only two airports in this country with any flights at all -- DEN and DFW. Then Southwest would have to start flying out of DFW.
One death, while unfortunate, is very little considering the number of MDW flights over its history. MDW is not a dangerous airport. It's a tiny fraction of a percent less safe than DEN and DFW, big deal.
By that yardstick, MDW is safer than DFW.