New Service From Miami
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WingNaPrayer
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With depeaking getting ready to hit on May 1, I don't think there will be anything new until after they get that under control, and see how it works out. Scheduling of labor and gate use is always a nitemare right after depeaking so it may be a couple of months after that before anything new comes along. But then, you never know, with the mentality of AA management, they may hit their hub with all kinds of crap while everyone is scrambling just to figure things out.
St. Lucia/Hewanorra starts 1 November 2004.MiAAmi said:
Both Dayton, Ohio and Memphis, Tenn. start 2 December 2004 (or some time in the first week of December, I don't remember exactly). They have not been uploaded yet for sale (probably won't be until May/June), but they have gotten the go ahead to start (that can change, of course).
Rumours of Manchester, UK service have been really strong lately, and I even heard of a start-date (1 November 2004, right after the BOS-MAN seasonal service ends). It would not at all surprise me to see it launched, but I won't believe it until it is uploaded into the res systems.
DAY and MEM will be RJs. I think DAY is twice-daily and MEM 3x daily.
And, there are plenty of new flights being added this summer. For the first time, AA will operate more flights in the summer timetable from MIA than in the previous winter period.
This summer:
ATL: 6th daily, year-round
BNA: 2nd daily goes year-round; 3rd daily added
BOG: 3rd daily, year-round
BOS: 6th daily goes year-round
BZE: 2nd frequency goes year-round and will be 7x a week
CUN: 4th daily, year round; 5th daily for the summer
EWR: 4th daily, year round
FPO: 4th daily, year round
GCM: 3rd daily resumes, year round
GRU: from 18w to 3x daily, year round
IAH: 4th daily, year round
JFK: 6th daily, year round; 7th frequency on Sundays for summer
KIN: 3rd daily, summer
LIM: both flights upgraded to A300s
MBJ: 3rd daily, year round
MCO: 5th daily, year round
MDE: +2 weekly, summer
NAS: 13th daily, year round
PAP: 3rd daily resumes, year round; 4th daily, summer
PUJ: +5 weekly, summer
RSW: 4th daily, year round
SAL: +3 weekly, summer
SAP: +1 weekly, summer
SDQ: 4th daily, summer
SJO: +4 weekly, summer
TGU: +2 weekly, summer
TPA: 4th daily goes year-round; new 5th daily, year round
UIO: +1 weekly, summer
YUL: 2nd daily goes year-round
Most of the year-round additions come online 1 May. The summer seasonal services and a few others start 10 June and end between 29 August and 7 September. 4th MIA-EWR starts last, on 1 July.
There are some subtractions, to, of course. Almost all of them are the usual seasonal adjustments (i.e. no EGE service; DEN and BDL go to one daily, etc.), except that DCA and SJU each loose one daily (both will go from 8 to 7 dailies).
Get ready, though, because winter 2004/2005 is going to be a very big one for AA at MIA. I have been hearing upwards of ten new routes may be added. Still way too early, though.
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Mark,MAH4546 said:
I KNOW I sound like a "broken record", but "What in HEL*" are they waiting for ??? (PVD/MIA) ???
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That charter has been flying for a long time, along with a couple of other cities. I believe it was suspended for a short time after 9/11 but is back in full operation.lpbrian said:
CMH is going daily and then some on 2 January 2005. The new MIA-CMH schedule:MiAAmi said:
AA 4495 MIA 1200-1430 CMH SaSu
AA 4497 MIA 1520-1755 CMH Sa
AA 4457 MIA 1805-1955 CMH Daily
AA 4494 CMH 0730-1009 MIA SaSu
AA 4496 CMH 1212-1415 MIA Sa
AA 4458 CMH 2018-2355 MIA Daily
All will use ERJ-145s.
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I read about this earlier but am not holding my breath. They originally had this daily flight to CMH to start NOV 01 2004 but moved it back to next JAN. Would love to see MIA-SEA back again. I wonder if MIA-BDA would do well. I think US does FLL-BDA without any connecting traffic. I would think that AA could do this flt from MIA and do better since there would be connecting traffic to take advantage of.
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Hmmmmm, imagine what they'll be able to do with mainline headcount after that kind of an increase!capeman said:
Re: MIA-CMH
You can hold your breathe. It is happening, I promise. It is already up for booking. The push back more has to do with the fact that there is no RJ base in Miami. Scheduling RJs to Miami is not an easy task, because they have to further adjust other schedules.
Re: MIA-SEA
I definitley see AA returning to this market with thier new AS partnership. I have heard that they are looking into it for winter 2004. AA's flight will be timed for deep LatAm connections, with early morning departure from MIA/evening arrival to MIA, just like it used to be. AS will keep the current schedule (morning departure from SEA/evening departure from MIA), ideal for Caribbean connections.
Re: MIA-BDA
The Bermudan government has already offered AA subsidies for this route. This is a route with major potential. The Bermudan goverment set up a travel bank for US Airways, to guarantee that FLL-BDA was profitable. US Airways never needed to use the funds, because the flight was a huge money maker from the start. It will be operating twice a week this summer.
Re: AEagle expansion
55 RJ flights by August? Highly unlikely, IMO. Regarding BNA, though, the RJ flights are already loaded into the schedule. They start 1 May 2004. MIA does not work well for an RJ market. It's a dense market, so I don't see RJs taking over on current routes. I see them supplmenting on some short-haul routes (like how they are on BNA and CLT) and allowing routes that can't support mainline (i.e. RIC) to start.
By 2008, I expect MIA to be up to about 350-370 daily departures, with about 100-120 of them on Eagle.
It is a huge increase in operations, but even AA has said that they plan at the minimum 330 daily flights by 2007. Miami and Dallas are going to have a very bright future in the 2000s for AA growth. Chicago won't see as much as they did in the 1990s.
You can hold your breathe. It is happening, I promise. It is already up for booking. The push back more has to do with the fact that there is no RJ base in Miami. Scheduling RJs to Miami is not an easy task, because they have to further adjust other schedules.
Re: MIA-SEA
I definitley see AA returning to this market with thier new AS partnership. I have heard that they are looking into it for winter 2004. AA's flight will be timed for deep LatAm connections, with early morning departure from MIA/evening arrival to MIA, just like it used to be. AS will keep the current schedule (morning departure from SEA/evening departure from MIA), ideal for Caribbean connections.
Re: MIA-BDA
The Bermudan government has already offered AA subsidies for this route. This is a route with major potential. The Bermudan goverment set up a travel bank for US Airways, to guarantee that FLL-BDA was profitable. US Airways never needed to use the funds, because the flight was a huge money maker from the start. It will be operating twice a week this summer.
Re: AEagle expansion
55 RJ flights by August? Highly unlikely, IMO. Regarding BNA, though, the RJ flights are already loaded into the schedule. They start 1 May 2004. MIA does not work well for an RJ market. It's a dense market, so I don't see RJs taking over on current routes. I see them supplmenting on some short-haul routes (like how they are on BNA and CLT) and allowing routes that can't support mainline (i.e. RIC) to start.
By 2008, I expect MIA to be up to about 350-370 daily departures, with about 100-120 of them on Eagle.
It is a huge increase in operations, but even AA has said that they plan at the minimum 330 daily flights by 2007. Miami and Dallas are going to have a very bright future in the 2000s for AA growth. Chicago won't see as much as they did in the 1990s.
MAH4546 said:
Re: AEagle expansion
55 RJ flights by August? Highly unlikely, IMO. Regarding BNA, though, the RJ flights are already loaded into the schedule. They start 1 May 2004. MIA does not work well for an RJ market. It's a dense market, so I don't see RJs taking over on current routes. I see them supplmenting on some short-haul routes (like how they are on BNA and CLT) and allowing routes that can't support mainline (i.e. RIC) to start.
The RJ's will not be doing intra Fla. They will be doing routes that AA had previously or wanted to do. Mid Atlantic cities to MIA. Small midwest cities to MIA. TPA, MCO, EYW, and JAX will still be props to the end. To make a long story short, RJ's will cover the 1200 mile range out of MIA.
I know they won't be doing MIA-EYW/RSW or MIA-Bahamas, but I would not rule them out in the future on MIA-JAX. Props are no longer operating MIA-MCO/TPA, though. Eagle ended MIA-TPA in early 2002, MIA-MCO later that year. They are both now five daily mainline flights. What I meant by complimenting is on routes like MIA-CLE, which has one daily S80, but is in range of an RJ. I've also been hearing they will be adding RJs to compliment the three daily M80s on MIA-RDU.capeman said:
