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Requesting a little assistance here....
 
I'm looking at TPA/MCO/FLL/MIA to DFW (ultimately trying to get to work in PHX) on Sunday (this Sunday) ... Most of the flights have the yellow face that isn't frowning but it also isn't smiling.  It looks to me like most of the flights have one Y seat available and a few of them have 1 or 2 FC seats available.
 
Monday also looks the same...
 
I'm only looking at these flights as a back-up in case problems arise on the home front.
 
Is there any way to determine how many non-revs are listed and where I would fall in terms of boarding priority?  Here is an example of a flight seats available:
 
F1 A0 P0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 L0 M0 W0 V0 S0 G0 N0 E0 Q0 O0
 
Does any of that mean anything other than 1 FC seat available and 2 coach seats available?  Some of the other flights have numbers in those other fields.
 
It looks to me like there are very few AA flights with more than 4 seats available - pretty much the same might be said about US.
 
All assistance will be appreciated.
 
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i just saw this on SWA .....  

Seats available

Y4 X4
 

 
What does X4 mean?  4 standbys?  nothing?
 
F1 A0 P0  - What this means is that there is one seat for sale in the first class cabin, and it's only available for full fare (F), not for discounted mileage redemption (A or P) 
Y2 B0 H0 K0 L0 M0 W0 V0 S0 G0 N0 E0 Q0 O0 - This means there are two seats for sale in the main cabin, and again, it's only for full fare (Y), not for discounted fare tickets or mileage tickets (all the other codes).  
 
From this availability display, you cannot tell any nonrev info, nor can you tell whether they overbook (selling more seats than capacity on the airplane).   
 
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Thanks for the tech breakdown BungeeJumper.  I can at least make sense of what you're saying.  I traveled via My Travel ID once, but I was at the DEN airport and went from counter to counter until I found some seats to PHX...then just did the purchase on my phone right there.  
 
Just Me....I used to work/live in PHX.  Commuting to/from there is a nightmare.  I always had better luck buying an interline pass on SW....Good luck
 
If you had access to AA's Jetnet non-rev travel application, you would see not only how many nonrevs are listed, but what category at a particular station--for instance, 2 D1s, 3 D2s, 1 D2T (through passenger).  That will be only how many people have listed.  Within 24 hours of departure you can see the actual standby list of people who have not only listed but checked in for the flight.  Unfortunately, a lot of people list for flights then change their mind about going, but don't cancel their nonrev listing.
 
That being said, I looked up the flights to DFW from those stations.  TPA, MCO, FLL, and MIA are out of the question.  Every flight just about is oversold, the ones that have a few seats available have nonrevs already listed (not checked in of course), and some that are oversold also have nonrevs listed.
 
There are a few seats available if you are willing to fly on and are eligible to be listed on American Eagle flights.  And, that would  be if you are willing to go MIA-ATL-DFW.  There is one 737 MIA-ATL on Sunday, the rest are AE.  All flights from ATL-DFW are either MD80 or 737.  Several of those flights have seats available at this moment.
 
Starting with the 3:40pm departure from ATL, all 5 of the last flights of the day have at least a few seats available.  The last flight of the day has 54 passengers on a 140 seat a/c.  Unfortunately, it gets to DFW at 9:40pm.  The last flight DFW-PHX leaves DFW at 9:40pm.  Do any US flights go to ATL from any of your potential departure cities?
 
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Thanks Jim & Frontier...I decided to chicken out and leave 2 days early - 54 seats TPA-PHX on Saturday...
 
Jim, you confirmed my notion that Anywhere, FL nonstop to DFW on Monday was a non-starter...and that was without having access to JetNet.
 
Maybe I could go see the grand canyon on Sunday  :) 
 
You will probably see US put 321s on the DFW routes, seems that is going to be the largest PMUS fleet.
 
US likes to run 321s on hub to hub routes.
 
Assuming AA will keep JetNet. When will the Wings/Travel US site close down?  Will it be after the cut-over to Sabre or before?
 
Nov Rev Travel is a joke. Buy a ticket you're confirmed and don't have to follow the company dress code for employees. its a win/win for you.
 
:D
 
Non Rev, I don't know that A necessarily requires B, but Jetnet Travel Planner is just a GUI overlay to Sabre; so, the closure of your nonrev travel site would probably occur after the cutover to Sabre, or if they installed an access to Sabre then the Jetnet Travel Planner could be used in any case.

Travel Planner gives the non-computer savvy employee the ability to point and click on a graphic calendar for departure date, then enter the departure airport code and arrival airport code (if you don't know those, there's a Lookup feature), specify the maximum number of stops (nonstop, 1 stop, 2 stop, no maximum) and a through airport if known there's going to be one (for instance, you are going Miami to Lubbock; so, you know there will be a plane change at DFW). The app then displays the possible travel options including all connecting flights, the loads on each "mainline" AA flight (how many actual tickets have been sold in each cabin), and how many nonrevs are already listed (AA or AE) and the type of nonrev--D1, D2, D1T, D2T, etc.--and the cabin they listed for (though, of course, this is never guaranteed).

You then pick the itinerary you want for your outbound, and repeat the process for your return flight. The app then creates your PNR and can email it to you if you wish. I usually don't bother with that step because you can access that PNR, change it, or cancel it at any time by just going to the Travel Planner app. One of the first items shown each time is all of your current travel PNRs.

A nice feature is that the planner is not supposed to show you a possible itinerary where your connection time at a hub, say DFW, is less than one hour. I think you can force it by creating the itinerary one leg at a time, but why would you want to live that dangerously? Counting on an early arrival to help you make a connection at DFW is a fool's game. Everyone knows that no good deed goes unpunished. If you arrive 20 minutes early at DFW, you have to wait 30 minutes for a gate. (I think it's Federal law or something. :lol:)
 
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What you have done is definitly NOT a "chicken out."  It is a very WISE move for a non-rev.  You do what you have to do to get where you need to go.
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I agree it is a wise move. When my family was younger we non-reved a bit and found it not worth the hassle or in several cases the expense of getting stuck and having to stay in a hotel and then ending up buying last min. tickets to get somewhere. I retired in Dec. 2012 and have not non-reved since then.We  have bought our tickets on airlines other than US Airways/American. My first choice of transportation is the car because you can get out and stretch or have a choice of places to eat and if you see something interesting you can sight see.
 
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