Jw And Martha.....two Great Roomates

[Flyboy4u]

Lets face it APFA members this union, led by JW is a joke He lied to the membership again and continues to hide. JW and Martha would make great roomates in the federal pen....JW can open cans and wine ( Provided he remembers how to do it ) while Martha cooks the meals and decorates the cell....Both of these individuals deserve equal treatmen as they have benefitted at the expense of others....Namely those who put faith, trust, and money on their behalf to protect and honor what they come to respect thier own jobs.
Those current APFA members this is now a cry for you to call payroll and have them cancel ANY and all FUNDS directed to the APFA....The money will be better spent in your own pockets....Hopefully criminal charges will soon follow his demise as the president of the APFA...Obviously these charges are warranted and rightfully deserved....Bye, Bye...JW....Enjoy your new cell !!


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[FA Mikey]

Lets face it APFA members this union, led by JW is a joke He lied to the membership again and continues to hide. JW and Martha would make great roomates in the federal pen....JW can open cans and wine ( Provided he remembers how to do it ) while Martha cooks the meals and decorates the cell....Both of these individuals deserve equal treatmen as they have benefitted at the expense of others....Namely those who put faith, trust, and money on their behalf to protect and honor what they come to respect thier own jobs.
Those current APFA members this is now a cry for you to call payroll and have them cancel ANY and all FUNDS directed to the APFA....The money will be better spent in your own pockets....Hopefully criminal charges will soon follow his demise as the president of the APFA...Obviously these charges are warranted and rightfully deserved....Bye, Bye...JW....Enjoy your new cell !!
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[post="169531"][/post]​

Sorry there is no comparison to Martha Stewart and jw. There is no and should be no call to cancel dues to the union. Unless your goal is to get people fired. You must pay dues or resign and pay the service fee to maintain employment with AA. Looking to gain some seniority, at the expense of the dimwitted who may follow your erroneous advice? I suggest anyone thinking this is a good idea look up article 31 and read sections F and G.

 

[Flyboy4u]

Sorry there is no comparison to Martha Stewart and jw. There is no and should be no call to cancel dues to the union. Unless your goal is to get people fired. You must pay dues or resign and pay the service fee to maintain employment with AA. Looking to gain some seniority, at the expense of the dimwitted who may follow your erroneous advice? I suggest anyone thinking this is a good idea look up article 31 and read sections F and G.

[post="169547"][/post]​

Mikey

You can read those sections of that contract all you want. The fact is and still remains that there are hundreds on that "dues" arrears list. Had this "so called" union followed that piece of junk contract then many furloughs would Have NEVER happened. Again, like myself, many F/A's are now refusing to pay any dues until change internally at the APFA takes place....

You say there is no comparison between the two? Again, look at the lies put out by both of these individuals . Look at the havoc, and dismay to peoples lives caused by these individuals. Perhaps it's because you are so senior it hasn't had any affect on you personally. I would say there is quite a resemblence between JW and Martha. Call my advice erroneous all you want but when it comes to the TRUTH it seems to be hard for some individuals to swallow it!

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[FA Mikey]

Mikey

You can read those sections of that contract all you want. The fact is and still remains that there are hundreds on that "dues" arrears list. Had this "so called" union followed that piece of junk contract then many furloughs would Have NEVER happened. Again, like myself, many F/A's are now refusing to pay any dues until change internally at the APFA takes place....

You say there is no comparison between the two? Again, look at the lies put out by both of these individuals . Look at the havoc, and dismay to peoples lives caused by these individuals. Perhaps it's because you are so senior it hasn't had any affect on you personally. I would say there is quite a resemblence between JW and Martha. Call my advice erroneous all you want but when it comes to the TRUTH it seems to be hard for some individuals to swallow it!

What Unity?

[post="169605"][/post]​

Martha Stewart was convicted of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators. What havoc and dismay has that caused peoples lives? OH the horror. How will we as people go on from here? How does Martha Stewart compare to that compare to jw at all?

When I sad your advice was erroneous I was being nice, what it is actually is stupid and reactionary. There are hundreds on the dues arrears list. Let me tell you who some on the list just might include. Women who were or out on maternity, people who have been on an extended illness, etc. There are also hundreds on a list making payment. To get caught up. The ones who refused to pay up dues, or make payment plan. Have been terminated by AA. Have you checked with the treasurers office to know exactly how many are dues arrears and are not paying or making payments? Is your hundreds number just your off the cuff guess? What is the exact number Ed? When did you last check that out Ed? Just want to know how accurate your numbers are.

Good luck, you are going to need it. When you are brought up for non payment. maybe then you will experience first hand how the process works. I just hope its you and not some other dim whited flight attendant caught up in this unfounded sorted tale you are turning.

 

[Flyboy4u]

Martha Stewart was convicted of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators. What havoc and dismay has that caused peoples lives? OH the horror. How will we as people go on from here? How does Martha Stewart compare to that compare to jw at all?

When I sad your advice was erroneous I was being nice, what it is actually is stupid and reactionary. There are hundreds on the dues arrears list. Let me tell you who some on the list just might include. Women who were or out on maternity, people who have been on an extended illness, etc. There are also hundreds on a list making payment. To get caught up. The ones who refused to pay up dues, or make payment plan. Have been terminated by AA. Have you checked with the treasurers office to know exactly how many are dues arrears and are not paying or making payments? Is your hundreds number just your off the cuff guess? What is the exact number Ed? When did you last check that out Ed? Just want to know how accurate your numbers are.

Good luck, you are going to need it. When you are brought up for non payment. maybe then you will experience first hand how the process works. I just hope its you and not some other dim whited flight attendant caught up in this unfounded sorted tale you are turning.

[post="169632"][/post]​

 

[Flyboy4u]

Martha Stewart was convicted of obstruction of justice and lying to investigators. What havoc and dismay has that caused peoples lives? OH the horror. How will we as people go on from here? How does Martha Stewart compare to that compare to jw at all?

When I sad your advice was erroneous I was being nice, what it is actually is stupid and reactionary. There are hundreds on the dues arrears list. Let me tell you who some on the list just might include. Women who were or out on maternity, people who have been on an extended illness, etc. There are also hundreds on a list making payment. To get caught up. The ones who refused to pay up dues, or make payment plan. Have been terminated by AA. Have you checked with the treasurers office to know exactly how many are dues arrears and are not paying or making payments? Is your hundreds number just your off the cuff guess? What is the exact number Ed? When did you last check that out Ed? Just want to know how accurate your numbers are.

Good luck, you are going to need it. When you are brought up for non payment. maybe then you will experience first hand how the process works. I just hope its you and not some other dim whited flight attendant caught up in this unfounded sorted tale you are turning.

[post="169632"][/post]​

Just what is your beef with me anyway Mikey? Why is it when I post on here you and Miaami do nothing but criticisize what it is I post? Are you that immature that you can't allow someone else to post their own views? Last time i checked it was still a free country.... Fact is Mikey....The contract states those in Dues arrears is subject to termination...I agree those on Maternity etc...should't be held accountable but guess what? This piece of crap contract doesnt give them any out..You say JW isn't like martha....I believe he is now under investigation by the DOL..Probably for lying! Also, you want to know about the havoc on lives he has done just ask the thousands on furlough and those who have just recently returned from furlough. Again you seem to be so far removed from what has happened out there and continues to happen...Why dont you go out and actually findout the havoc placed on these F/A's? Probably because you dont give a crap! You call this an unfounded sort of tale....Just watch the dues arrears list go through the roof! You havent even seen the beginning of this yet...So go ahead now and call me an idiot and dim whitted but I live in the reality and not with my head in the sand!

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[galleyguy4u2]

Actually you can become a DUES OBJECTOR. You will pay a reduced amount. However, you will not be entitled to Union representation nor will you be able to vote in any elections or run for any Union office. If you become a DUES OBJECTOR your dues will be greatly reduced but you cannot be terminated.

 

[AAStew]

I have been on the dues arrear list quite a few times. Let's see I have three kids, so that was hundreds right there. I chose to take leave and did not pay monthly so there I was again. I have paid up after each time because even though I may not agree with alot of the union crap, they will still help me if anything comes up with the company.
My suggestion to those who are listening to Flyboy4u is don't. It will come back to bite you in the ass!

 

[FA Mikey]

Just what is your beef with me anyway Mikey? Why is it when I post on here you and Miaami do nothing but criticisize what it is I post? Are you that immature that you can't allow someone else to post their own views? Last time i checked it was still a free country.... Fact is Mikey....The contract states those in Dues arrears is subject to termination...I agree those on Maternity etc...should't be held accountable but guess what? This piece of crap contract doesnt give them any out..You say JW isn't like martha....I believe he is now under investigation by the DOL..Probably for lying! Also, you want to know about the havoc on lives he has done just ask the thousands on furlough and those who have just recently returned from furlough. Again you seem to be so far removed from what has happened out there and continues to happen...Why dont you go out and actually findout the havoc placed on these F/A's? Probably because you dont give a crap! You call this an unfounded sort of tale....Just watch the dues arrears list go through the roof! You havent even seen the beginning of this yet...So go ahead now and call me an idiot and dim whitted but I live in the reality and not with my head in the sand!

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[post="169825"][/post]​

I don't jump on you for the shear joy of it. Its for the absolutely insane, off the wall, unrealistic, never thought through things you post. Good God Ed you ramble on yet regretfully, but hardly unexpectantly you failed to answer one of the questions I posed to you. I mean I know the reality and truth of it. I just wanted you post and maybe if you went back and read it over you would realize most of what you say is nothing more than over the top reactionary garbage.

Lets try again, answer these questions for me.

How does Martha Stewart compare to that compare to jw at all?

Have you checked with the treasurers office to know exactly how many are dues arrears and are not paying or making payments?

Is your hundreds number just your off the cuff guess?

What is the exact number Ed?

When did you last check that out Ed?

Since you advocate not paying dues, and you make these blanket statements. Its only fair we be allowed to gauge how accurate your information is. Dont you agree?

 

[FA Mikey]

Actually you can become a DUES OBJECTOR. You will pay a reduced amount. However, you will not be entitled to Union representation nor will you be able to vote in any elections or run for any Union office. If you become a DUES OBJECTOR your dues will be greatly reduced but you cannot be terminated.

[post="169827"][/post]​

Interesting, I am not familiar with that. I do know you may opt out or resign. You must though pay the service fee, and are entitled to representation.