Isp-pqi Only $716+tax One Way!

[JS]

Looking around at published fares, every once in a while I come across a city pair with no published fares, such as BKW-OGS and ISP-HGR.

However, ISP-PQI is an interesting one because there are only two fares that are published. One is $706+$10 fuel surcharge, one way, in the Y booking class. The other is $1060 one way in F.

Did someone in yield management forget to upload any discount fares between ISP and PQI?


BKW = Beckley, WV
OGS = Ogdensburg, NY
HGR = Hagerstown, MD
PQI = Presque Isle, ME
ISP = Islip obviously

 

[GadgetFreak]

Looking around at published fares, every once in a while I come across a city pair with no published fares, such as BKW-OGS and ISP-HGR.

However, ISP-PQI is an interesting one because there are only two fares that are published. One is $706+$10 fuel surcharge, one way, in the Y booking class. The other is $1060 one way in F.

Did someone in yield management forget to upload any discount fares between ISP and PQI?
BKW = Beckley, WV
OGS = Ogdensburg, NY
HGR = Hagerstown, MD
PQI = Presque Isle, ME
ISP = Islip obviously

[post="177405"][/post]​

Nice. I think this falls pretty squarely as a poster child for fare rationalization. At least I havent seen $2200 LGA-PHL-LAX or $700 LGA-RDU-PHL-LAX or whatever they tried to sell me last year recently. Although in fairness all the major carriers have some forms of craziness floating around in the complexity of their fares. Last year someone pointed out to me as I was trying to route a business trip from JFK to PVG on UA that for the same price as JFK-SFO-PVG and returning the same, I could do JFK-NRT-SFO-PVG and maximize my miles. I declined. But I suspect they sell a few of those.

 

[JS]

Nice. I think this falls pretty squarely as a poster child for fare rationalization. At least I havent seen $2200 LGA-PHL-LAX or $700 LGA-RDU-PHL-LAX or whatever they tried to sell me last year recently. Although in fairness all the major carriers have some forms of craziness floating around in the complexity of their fares. Last year someone pointed out to me as I was trying to route a business trip from JFK to PVG on UA that for the same price as JFK-SFO-PVG and returning the same, I could do JFK-NRT-SFO-PVG and maximize my miles. I declined. But I suspect they sell a few of those.

[post="177426"][/post]​

It has nothing to do with fare rationalization. It's just an oversight. One time I saw a TWA fare published from ONT to LAX for some absurd amount of money ($2,000 or so). Maybe these are not oversights but insider jokes in yield management.

With fare rationalization, you will have no service at all between many city pairs. For example, try flying Southwest HRL-CRP (Harlingen, TX to Corpus Christi, TX). It's not in the schedule at all, which means you would have to buy two tickets -- HRL-HOU and HOU-CRP. It's idiotic not to publish the route (just one connection), but this is a negative of over-simplifying everything.

On the flip side of this issue, take ISP-SBY for example. Only $108+tax roundtrip with 14 day advance purchase and no minimum stay. I have found several other USAirways monopolies with low fares (not $29 one way super-low, but pretty reasonable), such as GRR-DUJ for $183 roundtrip.

 

[GadgetFreak]

It has nothing to do with fare rationalization. It's just an oversight. One time I saw a TWA fare published from ONT to LAX for some absurd amount of money ($2,000 or so). Maybe these are not oversights but insider jokes in yield management.

With fare rationalization, you will have no service at all between many city pairs. For example, try flying Southwest HRL-CRP (Harlingen, TX to Corpus Christi, TX). It's not in the schedule at all, which means you would have to buy two tickets -- HRL-HOU and HOU-CRP. It's idiotic not to publish the route (just one connection), but this is a negative of over-simplifying everything.

On the flip side of this issue, take ISP-SBY for example. Only $108+tax roundtrip with 14 day advance purchase and no minimum stay. I have found several other USAirways monopolies with low fares (not $29 one way super-low, but pretty reasonable), such as GRR-DUJ for $183 roundtrip.

[post="177431"][/post]​

Im not sure why you say that. ISP-PQI is probably ISP-PHL-PQI. I have flown LGA-PHL-Rockland MA (whatever the hell that code is). Saying it is not a fare rationalization but rather an oversight seems a semantic difference. Same with my UA example. The fare rule actually stated that you could have a stop in either SFO or NRT, I forget which way it was worded.

 

[JS]

Rockland, Maine is RKD

LGA to RKD or PQI can be flown with a BOS connection (about as convenient as it's going to get). Flying out of ISP would require a trip to PHL and then BOS. I was thinking that the required double connection might explain the lack of fares ISP-PQI (one could fly AA to BOS and then US to RKD or PQI), but then US does publish a fare between ISP and LNS of $142 roundtrip, which requires a connection in both PIT and PHL.

 

[GadgetFreak]

Rockland, Maine is RKD

LGA-RKD can be flown with a BOS connection (about as convenient as it's going to get). Flying out of ISP would require a trip to PHL and then BOS. I was thinking that the required double connection might explain the lack of fares (a desparate person would fly AA to BOS and then US to RKD), but then US does publish a fare between ISP to LNS of $142 roundtrip, which requires a connection in both PIT and PHL.

[post="177446"][/post]​

I seem to recall going LGA-BOS-RKD and then RKD-BAN (Bangor?)-PHL-LGA on the return. Not certain, couple years ago. BAN may have been unscheduled, picking up someone uncle in the Beechcraft or some such.

 

[JS]

I don't see an RKD-BGR flight in the schedule (could have been published in the past). There is an RKD-AUG and RKD-BHB flight, both of which started in or continue to BOS. It's like a miniature Southwest where you make a quick stop along the way.

 

[FM2436]

JS:

I was once told that USAirways did not publish fares between markets that require 2 or more connections. I don't know if that is the case now, or for that matter if it was ever the case.

I would suspect that ISP-HGR would require double-connections since you can only get to HGR through PIT on a 1900. I know HGR's passenger traffic has plummeted in recent years costing the fewer passengers that fly into and out of HGR more money to operate that 1900.

 

[Non Rev]

Just ran across this one the other day. CLT(Charlotte)-FLO(FLorence SC) 99 miles $400.00!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crazy!


Anybody remember the old days of Carolina Fares @ Piedmont. $99.00 roundtrip from CLT to anywhere in the Carolinas.