Iam Really Is A Scab Union

[AP Tech]

PITMTC, For once I can agree with you 100%

 

[delldude]

Yea sure, let the membership vote on something you don't agree with so you could blame them for the yes vote.
Hmmmmm..where have I heard that rhetoric before. Hint: "Don't let the facts get in your way"

[post="290819"][/post]​

BS dude...they would have crossed in droves and accepted peanuts to save their jobs...you know it too. :down:
not too many carry these at U

 

[markkus757]

This whole thread is why NW is winning right now and the unions are losing. You guys are practically feeding on your own young. Get real. Crap or get off. All this talk is jus that. Nothing more.

 

[biztraveller29]

"Meanwhile, members of the machinists' union, which usually handles tasks like baggage handling and customer service, took on the task of cleaning Northwest's cabins between flights at its hubs here and in Minneapolis, a job that was previously done by the mechanics' union.

Mechanics cleaning airplanes? No wonder NW is losing buckets of money.

 

[High Iron]

Mechanics cleaning airplanes? No wonder NW is losing buckets of money.

[post="290913"][/post]​

No, they have their own cleaners. Mechanics don't clean airplanes.

 

[delldude]

This whole thread is why NW is winning right now and the unions are losing. You guys are practically feeding on your own young. Get real. Crap or get off. All this talk is jus that. Nothing more.

[post="290842"][/post]​

things are movin' kinda slow dude......

 

[BottomFeeder]

Nope sorry dont work for NWA and dont do cleaning.

Thought you were over there reliving your cleaning from 1992.

[post="290813"][/post]​

Who needs to clean the aircraft since the IAM is handling it just fine.


700UW don't you love those picket line crossing, struck AMFA working by the IAM?


Go ahead and tell us all it is OK to SCAB someone else's work. :down:

 

[AP Tech]

Bottom line, the IAM is crossing a legal picket line day after day. :down: They are no better in my opinion than the replacement workers. Their contract says they do not have to cross a picket line but they choose to do so :down:

 

[markkus757]

If that's your only requirement, then add the other two groups into this discussion. Don't be retarded about it. The pilots and FAs are just as guilty then. "Let's badmouth everyone so we look better." Unions are always good at making everyone else look bad when they should be looking at themselves. 700UW, don't waste your time; let them come calling for US jobs when they get replaced permanently.

 

[usair_begins_with_u]

Talk all the semantics you want, at the end of the day its obvious...

IAM = SCAB UNION

 

[delldude]

Talk all the semantics you want, at the end of the day its obvious...

IAM = SCAB UNION

[post="291585"][/post]​

samo samo for alpo

 

[jetmechline]

Talk all the semantics you want, at the end of the day its obvious...

IAM = SCAB UNION

[post="291585"][/post]​

Union gets jobs from its rival at Northwest
BY JEWEL GOPWANI
FREE PRESS BUSINESS WRITER

August 25, 2005


Northwest Airlines ensured that its 15,000 baggage handlers, ticket agents and other ground workers would remain on the job Wednesday, and that its planes would keep flying through a mechanics strike, by taking work away from the mechanics union and giving it to the ground workers union.


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The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers represents 2,700 baggage handlers, ramp workers and customer service agents at Detroit Metro Airport. Altogether at Northwest, the union represents nearly 15,000 employees. The union is in mediated negotiations with the airline, which seeks $107 million in annual concessions from the machinists.


The Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association represents 4,400 striking employees who had been fixing aircraft and ground vehicles, such as trucks that carry luggage to planes, and cleaning planes. The union walked off the job early Saturday, protesting $176 million in annual concessions the airline sought. The airline has hired replacements.

The coveted tasks include filling planes with drinking water and emptying lavatory holding tanks.


Northwest told the International Association of Machinists it could take over those tasks after union officials warned their continued cooperation depended on it.


"This was always our work," said Bobby De Pace, district president representing most of Northwest's ground workers. "We're just trying to get back what was ours."


De Pace's union is a rival of the striking Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association, which lured machinist members away in the late 1990s. Getting the machinists union to cross AMFA's picket lines was a crucial part of Northwest's plan to defy the strike and operate a full schedule of flights. :down:


When the strike began Saturday morning, ground workers immediately began doing some of the mechanics' chores, including pulling and guiding planes from gates, and cleaning planes on domestic routes.


These were tasks machinist members used to perform.


Northwest initially hired a company with nonunion workers to replenish drinking water and empty lavatories on its planes. Now that work also will go to the machinists.


De Pace wasn't sure exactly how many jobs the machinists might gain from assuming, or in his view, reassuming that work. But more work often means more jobs for union members assigned to those tasks.


Without the agreement, De Pace said: "There would have been a lot of unhappy people," including travelers.


Rumors swirling among Northwest workers Wednesday morning said the machinists union was poised to pull its workers off the job at 1 p.m., making it virtually impossible for Northwest to fly more than a handful of planes.


But around noon, Stephen Gordon, president of machinists Local 141 at Detroit Metro, said an agreement was reached on staffing the lavatory and drinking water trucks.


Bob Rose, president of the striking AMFA Local 5 at Metro, said, "Right now, we're off the property. They should get it," referring to the available work. "But if we get back on, we should get it back."


De Pace said the machinists want to keep the work even if AMFA and Northwest settle their dispute.


Northwest's chief executive officer, Doug Steenland, said, "I think we have a history of sitting down with the IAM in a collaborative and constructive manner." He said he didn't know any details about the work dispute or how it was resolved Wednesday.


At about 4 p.m. Wednesday, Steenland said the airline had completed 98% of the day's scheduled flights and more than 80% were on time, a performance comparable to that before the strike. This is the second time since just before the strike that Northwest has agreed to give a union, crucial to flying a full schedule, something it has asked for. A little more than a week before the mechanics went on strike, Northwest stopped using charter carrier Champion Air after pilots were outraged the airline used another company's crew to fly Northwest passengers.


Northwest is losing an average of $4 million a day because of soaring fuel costs, fare pressures and the industry's highest labor costs. The Egan, Minn.-based carrier has lost more than $3 billion since 2001.


To avoid bankruptcy, the nation's fourth-largest carrier says its unions must help it cut $1.1 billion a year in costs.


Northwest's 4,400 mechanics and plane cleaners struck after Northwest demanded to eliminate nearly half of their jobs and impose a 25% pay cut on those who remained.

 

[fanlube]

Northwest's chief executive officer, Doug Steenland, said, "I think we have a history of sitting down with the IAM in a collaborative and constructive manner." He said he didn't know any details about the work dispute or how it was resolved Wednesday.
Basically thats code for the IAM has never seen a concession it didn't like, and as long as there willing to scab here at NWA, when it comes time for us to come after them we will get everything we want. To all you IAM guys at NWA you better watch out the company is coming for you soon and the IAM will be right in their back pocket, then the leaders will run and hide when it comes to crunch time, make no recommendations on whether to strike or not and then blame the members for which ever it does.

 

[AP Tech]

In other words the IAM was paid off!!! A real trade union,Me,Me,Me...... :down:

 

[Kev3188]

Bob Rose, president of the striking AMFA Local 5 at Metro, said, "Right now, we're off the property. They should get it," referring to the available work. "But if we get back on, we should get it back."

[post="292397"][/post]​

This seems fair enough to me...





Actually, this is quite a shrewd move fiscally by the company. They already have the equipment, as well as the employees to perform the work. And, as we all know, both the IAM and AMFA (at least until the 20th) cba had this work covered. Having ESE's do this makes them more productive (or at least keeps them moving), which in theory would help lower labor cost in regards to productivity. Why bother paying an outside company to do this?



More job security for IAM members? Maybe. At least in the short term.

More jobs as a direct result? Possibly a few in the hubs (and part-time, at that), but I highly doubt it.

DePace probably thinks he scored a huge moral victory for the IAM. In reality, he just negotiated more work for the same amount of pay for the ESE work group in the hubs.