Flight Attendant Vote

[swflyer]

The results of the contract ratification vote are as follows:

Total votes cast-6334

Number of Yes votes -5243

Number of No votes-1091

The contract was ratified by 82.78% of the Membership

Board of Election

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[mweiss]

What on earth would have led a thousand FAs to vote no???

 

[WNrforlife]

What on earth would have led a thousand FAs to vote no???

Because they're greedy and stupid.

I am so glad this is over. I'm tired of all of the whining. :angry:

 

[swflyer]

What on earth would have led a thousand FAs to vote no???

MWeiss,

IMHO, it's about fear of change. There are 182 changes to our contract, and we 'moved some people's cheese'.

There are new productivity plans, and trading criteria, that some believe will be the end of life as they know it B) We're a pretty smart group, and I'm sure we'll figure out the new systems, soon enough.

 

[arkmitch]

MWeiss,

IMHO, it's about fear of change. There are 182 changes to our contract, and we 'moved some people's cheese'.

There are new productivity plans, and trading criteria, that some believe will be the end of life as they know it B) We're a pretty smart group, and I'm sure we'll figure out the new systems, soon enough.

MWeiss,

You are a F/A? You bashed me(a fellow flight attendant) just because? No matter how much you respect Mr. ELP Psg, you should never turn your back on YOUR fellow F/A's. Disrespectful.

 

[ELP_WN_Psgr]

MWeiss,

You are a F/A? You bashed me(a fellow flight attendant) just because? No matter how much you respect Mr. ELP Psg, you should never turn your back on YOUR fellow F/A's. Disrespectful.

First of all, mweiss is not a FA (to the best of my knowledge). swflyer is the FA who you were quoting.

In addition, respect is not something anyone is entitled to due solely to their occupation, their race, creed, color, or national origin.

Respect has to be earned.

 

[wnbubbleboy]

MWeiss,

You are a F/A? You bashed me(a fellow flight attendant) just because? No matter how much you respect Mr. ELP Psg, you should never turn your back on YOUR fellow F/A's. Disrespectful.

Why? Is there some kind of Club?

 

[WNjetdoc]

Why? Is there some kind of Club?

Yes there is bubbleboy....not that there is anything wrong with that.

Quick, give me a kiss and I'll tell you about it, .

 

[swflyer]

Why? Is there some kind of Club?

No, because if there was, membership could be cancelled <_<

Arkmitch, again you post in a flaming way, much like in the "Parker retires" forum. I offered you some advice there, on page four of the topic, that you seem to be ignoring. Too bad.

Here's a link:

Consider your methods

Respectfully,

 

[SWAFA30]

What on earth would have led a thousand FAs to vote no???

The "No" voters I spoke with both in person and online were generally unhappy with some of the work rule changes in the new contract. Our ability to trip trade will change under the new rules and for some that was reason enough to vote no.

 

[mweiss]

arkmitch,

First, you owe me an apology for calling me disrespectful when it was someone else's post you were quoting.

Second, you owe your fellow WN employees an apology for demanding more respect than ELP. He is not only older than you and has seen more than you, but he has done far more to give you your job than you will likely ever know.

Third, you owe the rest of the USaviation WN regulars an apology for coming in here like a bull in a china shop and breaking quite a bit of china.

And let me make one thing crystal clear. I don't bash anyone "just because." Just as respect must be earned, you very quickly earned your bashing all by yourself. Your very first post was flaming ELP for his opinion that the TA might well do long-term damage to the company. You could have written about how you felt the TA righted some long-standing wrongs in the FA contract, but instead focused on ELP as one of those big bad customers who want everything for free.

In short, you've been bashed because you earned it. You want respect around here, you have to earn that, too.

 

[mweiss]

SWAFA30, thanks for the insight.

 

[answerman]

Because they're greedy and stupid.

I am so glad this is over. I'm tired of all of the whining. :angry:

a no vote was an educated vote, not one of greed

money was secondary to the no votes, work rules first

:bleh:

 

[LiveInAHotel]

MWeiss,

You are a F/A? You bashed me(a fellow flight attendant) just because? No matter how much you respect Mr. ELP Psg, you should never turn your back on YOUR fellow F/A's. Disrespectful.

He is not a flight attendant. He is just a business person who hates organized labor!