Flashback 2000 UK Snow Prediction

[dapoes]

Enviro-kooks prediction in 2000:

Snowfalls are now just a thing of the past
Britain's winter ends tomorrow with further indications of a striking environmental change: snow is starting to disappear from our lives....
Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community.
Children just aren't going to know what snow is....

The Reality

Coldest December on record puts brakes on start of the big getaway
December 2010 is "almost certain" to be the coldest since records began in 1910, according to the Met Office.
Weathermen suggested that some parts of the south of England could see further snowfalls of up to 10 inches (25cm) today. Blizzards of heavy snow and ice are expected to bring further disruption over the next two days to roads, rail and flight services, particularly at Gatwick, as well as to retailers on the busiest shopping weekend of the calendar. Police in Northern Ireland – where conditions are said to be the worst in 25 years – and parts of Scotland were warning people against non-essential travel.

Look like someone is pushing a big ball of global warming???

 

[southwind]

Oh, the horror !

 

[Ms Tree]

 

[dapoes]

Model Charged with Excessive Use of Forcing(ie they lied)

Here is the sting in the tale. They have designed the perfect forcings, and adjusted the model parameters carefully, to match the historical observations. Having done so, the modelers then claim that the fact that their model no longer matches historical observations when you take out some of their forcings means that “natural forcing alone cannot explain” recent warming …

The IPCC actually says that because the tuned models don’t work well with part of their input removed, this shows that humans are the cause of the warming.

Hence, the term "junk science".

 

[Dog Wonder]

Have the Y2K lunatics come out of the woods yet?

 

[dapoes]

Have the Y2K lunatics come out of the woods yet?

They (liberals) never left.

 

[dapoes]

Makes perfect sense....


There's a mini ice age coming, says man who beats weather experts

Piers Corbyn not only predicted the current weather, but he believes things are going to get much worse, says Boris Johnson, London's mayor
The man who repeatedly beats the Met Office at its own game

Piers Corbyn works in an undistinguished office in Borough High Street. He has no telescope or supercomputer. Armed only with a laptop, huge quantities of publicly available data and a first-class degree in astrophysics, he gets it right again and again.

Back in November, when the Met Office was still doing its "mild winter" schtick, Corbyn said it would be the coldest for 100 years. Indeed, it was back in May that he first predicted a snowy December, and he put his own money on a white Christmas about a month before the Met Office made any such forecast. He said that the Met Office would be wrong about last year's mythical "barbecue summer", and he was vindicated. He was closer to the truth about last winter, too.

He seems to get it right about 85 per cent of the time and serious business people - notably in farming - are starting to invest in his forecasts. In the eyes of many punters, he puts the taxpayer-funded Met Office to shame. How on earth does he do it? He studies the Sun.

 

[Ms Tree]

We are set to tie the record high temp set in 1982 I believe. Of course this record means about as much as the record cold temps. I believe the operative word here is 'average'.

I await your next cut and paste or witty one line insult.

 

[dapoes]

Unless you consider factual data insulting to your liberal progressive beliefs. Sorry to insult you then.

 

[delldude]

We are set to tie the record high temp set in 1982 I believe. Of course this record means about as much as the record cold temps. I believe the operative word here is 'average'.

I await your next cut and paste or witty one line insult.

Article

“A growing mass of evidence suggests that transient events on the sun affect our weather and long
term variations of the sun’s energy output affect our climate. Solar terrestrial exploration can help
establishes the physical cause and effect relationships between solar stimuli and terrestrial responses.
When these relationships are understood, science will have an essential tool for weather and climate
prediction“. This paragraph was written by Robert D. Chapman as part of a proposal for a five-year
plan for Solar Terrestrial Programs in the National Aeronautics and Space Administration(Herman and
Goldberg 1978).
S. M. Yousef / ICEHM2000, Cairo University, Egypt, September, 2000, page 267- 293
S. M. Yousef / ICEHM2000, Cairo University, Egypt, September, 2000, page 266- 292

 

[Dog Wonder]

We could discuss the difference between climate and weather.

But it wouldn't change any minds believing science is determined by politics..

 

[Ms Tree]

Unless you consider factual data insulting to your liberal progressive beliefs. Sorry to insult you then.

I guess it's a good thing then that the current 84 degree temp (at 1703) is just a figment of my imagination and the previous record high was 81 set in 1981. Guess I will turn off the A/C. now. I wish I would have read this important piece of info earlier, I might not have been hot then.

On average, things are warming up. Why is unsure but it is happening. The idea of cleaning up the air I think is a good idea. If it has an effect on the climate, great. If not we will have cleaned air which will help other issues. It's a win win either way.

 

[dapoes]

We could discuss the difference between climate and weather.

But it wouldn't change any minds believing science is determined by politics..

Bravo on your moment of clarity!

 

[delldude]

We could discuss the difference between climate and weather.

But it wouldn't change any minds believing science is determined by politics..

Political endeavor to spread the wealth of you and I for some perverted vision of equality on a global scale?

DW are we having a collective moment?

 

[dapoes]

On average, things are warming up. Why is unsure but it is happening.

That supposed science is less then settled.

On or around about Nov. 14, 2009, GISS began to use a new global temperature data set that deleted temperature records relating to the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Not only that, but the temperature data that remained in use were adjusted downward for dates preceding the year 2000 (increasingly downward the farther back in the temperature record they go), thereby creating or exaggerating "warming" trends for individual locations.

The idea of cleaning up the air I think is a good idea. If it has an effect on the climate, great. If not we will have cleaned air which will help other issues. It's a win win either way.

That I will agree with. But at the same time lets not enable economy killing ordinances on a less then settled science.

The problem that has arouse in the past few years is that the prediction models have failed. It was a very complex computer models that somehow didn't reach present day conditions like it was supposed to. Yet people still cling to those beliefs as if they are still somehow true. Now if the prediction models would have been somewhat accurat,e then the controversy would not be what it is today.

Climate change: The sun and the oceans do not lie
What makes this even odder is that the runaway warming predicted by their computer models simply isn't happening. Last week one of the four official sources of temperature measurement, compiled from satellite data by the University of Huntsville, Alabama, showed that temperatures have now fallen to their average level since satellite data began 30 years ago.

Faced with a "consensus" view which looks increasingly implausible, a fast-growing body of reputable scientists from many countries has been coming up with a ''counter-consensus'', which holds that their fellow scientists have been looking in wholly the wrong direction to explain what is happening to the world's climate. The two factors which most plausibly explain what temperatures are actually doing are fluctuations in the radiation of the sun and the related shifting of ocean currents.


Despite the hot air, the Antarctic is not warming up
A deeply flawed new report will be cited ad nauseam by everyone from the BBC to Al Gore, says Christopher Booker. The vast mass of Antarctica, all satellite evidence has shown, has been getting colder over the past 30 years. Last year's sea-ice cover was 30 per cent above average.