FBI Can Go Through Your Trash

[SparrowHawk]

New rules are to be introduced allowing FBI agents to turn up the pressure on potential informants and delve into the backgrounds of more Americans.

Most significant are changes that will allow agents to search through trash and administer more lie detector tests as a way to tighten the screws on potential informants, reports The New York Times.

FBI, trash, surveillance. Under rules now in place, agents can use those techniques only on suspects, but the new regulations mean can use such tactics to gather information that could then be used to persuade people to help the bureau investigate others.

Other changes to be detailed in a new edition of the FBI’s Domestic Investigations and Operations Guide will allow agents to use more surveillance squads to follow targets and to search commercial and law enforcement databases without making a record of their investigations.

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Wonder how the left is going to blame this one on Bush???? Like I told ya folks, just two wings of the same bird of prey

 

[delldude]

Equally odd that Obama suddenly wants the FBI director held over for another ten year term??

 

[Dog Wonder]

Must be trying to get people to recycle.

 

[delldude]

Going through trash isn't a new venue. There's some type heebus grobus rule that when you put it on the curb you give up any type of privacy or heebus grobus action.

 

[777 fixer]

Going through trash isn't a new venue. There's some type heebus grobus rule that when you put it on the curb you give up any type of privacy or heebus grobus action.

I really doubt anyones civil liberties will be violated. Like you said once you put your trash on the curb it's out there for the world to see. You also have to take into account anyone who might be invovled with illegal activity is probably going to be carefull with their garbage. If you want to find dig up info on someone the better course to take is to check the net or hack their computer.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Under rules now in place, agents can use those techniques only on suspects, but the new regulations mean can use such tactics to gather information that could then be used to persuade people to help the bureau investigate others.

This creates a new breach in Civil Liberties. Before you had to be a suspect in a criminal investigation. Now they can go through anyone's trash

BIG DIFFERENCE

 

[delldude]

This creates a new breach in Civil Liberties. Before you had to be a suspect in a criminal investigation. Now they can go through anyone's trash

BIG DIFFERENCE

Not so sure.....when you place your trash on the curb, you give up some privacy things.....read it somewhere before....could be just Pennsylvania....Heebus Globus.....

 

[777 fixer]

Not so sure.....when you place your trash on the curb, you give up some privacy things.....read it somewhere before....could be just Pennsylvania....Heebus Globus.....

I ahd to make sure the sun was rsing in the east when I was at work this morning becasue we seem to be in agreement.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I ahd to make sure the sun was rsing in the east when I was at work this morning becasue we seem to be in agreement.

The difference between the old rule is kind of like this. Let's say I think Delldude blew up PIT and in fact he is a "Person of Interest/suspect". Perfectly legal under the new and old guidelines to go through Dell's trash.

NOW the FBI is saying it's OK to go through my trash, your trash, in effect anyone they think knows or knew Dell at any time during his lifetime even though we aren't Suspects or persons of interest.

Libertarians see these types of subtle changes as the creeping crud of tyranny.

 

[tech2101]

The difference between the old rule is kind of like this. Let's say I think Delldude blew up PIT and in fact he is a "Person of Interest/suspect". Perfectly legal under the new and old guidelines to go through Dell's trash.

NOW the FBI is saying it's OK to go through my trash, your trash, in effect anyone they think knows or knew Dell at any time during his lifetime even though we aren't Suspects or persons of interest.

Libertarians see these types of subtle changes as the creeping crud of tyranny.

Dirtbags are already going through your trash at the dump trying to steal your identity. Oh the humanity of it all....

 

[SparrowHawk]

Dirtbags are already going through your trash at the dump trying to steal your identity. Oh the humanity of it all....

Agreed! However the difference would be that they are not acting on the Authority of the Federal Government. I know it seems like a small change but that's how tyranny gets you. It's not an overthrow into tyranny, it's death by a thousand paper cuts. One day you have absolute Freedom & Liberty and then some number of years later you wake up and go WTF is going on. Only now it's to late and tyranny has you by the short curliy's.