DOT says no waivers

[eolesen]

A few airlines asked for leniency with the new three-hour rule, mainly due to JFK's runway construction.

If I were running an airline, I think long and hard about working to rule, so to speak. It's one thing to ask the DOT for permission as the airline. It's another thing when government workers actually get impacted by the stupid policies set by DOT bureaucrats who probably never leave a one-mile circle of L"Enfant Plaza....

http://bit.ly/chYyA7

 

[Mach85ER]

One my first ask; What is the "Tarmac"


20 years of flying airliners and I've heard fellow pilots, controllers, tug drivers, MX personnel, law enforcement and firefighters refer to runways, inner/outer ramps, taxiways and parking stands ect, but never heard anyone that has an operational function at an airport refer to anything called a "Tarmac"

First clue that idiots are in charge is when they screw up the first word.

 

[DFWTWU]

One my first ask; What is the "Tarmac"

20 years of flying airliners and I've heard fellow pilots, controllers, tug drivers, MX personnel, law enforcement and firefighters refer to runways, inner/outer ramps, taxiways and parking stands ect, but never heard anyone that has an operational function at an airport refer to anything called a "Tarmac"

First clue that idiots are in charge is when they screw up the first word.

FYI................
Near the end of the 18th century, a man by the name of John MacAdam first invented the method of "macadamizing" pavement by adding a layer of crushed gravel to surface a road. However, over time the gravel tended to grind and disintegrate. While it was fine for carriages and horses, newly invented motor cars would turn up huge dust clouds and send rocks flying from beneath their wheels.

Then, as luck would have it, British businessman E. Purnell Hooley was passing a tarworks factory in 1901, when he reportedly noticed a barrel of tar had spilled over the macadamized roadway. Someone had dumped gravel on the tar to cover it, and in traveling over this section of road, Hooley observed there was far less dust.

Based on this discovery, Hooley set out to make his own pavement mixture and launched a company to sell it. The company was Tar Macadam, and after changing hands in 1905, "Tarmac" became a huge success.

Tarmac is a registered trademark, yet has become a widely used term to describe any kind of paved road. Many people use the term to refer to an airplane runway, due to the fact that Tarmac was used extensively to construct runways during World War II. To this day, any large paved area at an airport is commonly referred to as a tarmac, whether it was paved with Tarmac or not.

Americans use the term "blacktop" to refer to tarmac, due to its color; though they use the term "tarmac" sparingly, and usually in reference to an airport runway. Brits, however, still commonly use the term to refer to any paved road or surface.

Today, tarless asphalt mixtures have largely replaced Tarmac, though many roads, airport aprons, and runways are still referred to as "tarmacs."

 

[TWU informer]

If I were running an airline, I think long and hard about working to rule, so to speak.

And would your purpose for "work to rule" be to effect a change in ruling, punish the rule maker, put pressure on the rule maker to change the ruling, punish the passenger, or just be a prove a point demonstration? Intersting concept from someone like you..."work to rule".

 

[AANOTOK]

Intersting concept from someone like you..."work to rule".

My first thought exactly Informer

 

[FWAAA]

You mean that government bureaucrats can't necessarily solve all complex problems they encounter? B)

 

[Ralph]

Related to all airlines. Not specifically AA. Moving to Industry News.

 

[Pi brat]

One my first ask; What is the "Tarmac"


20 years of flying airliners and I've heard fellow pilots, controllers, tug drivers, MX personnel, law enforcement and firefighters refer to runways, inner/outer ramps, taxiways and parking stands ect, but never heard anyone that has an operational function at an airport refer to anything called a "Tarmac"

First clue that idiots are in charge is when they screw up the first word.

Amen. I wondered if I was the only one that hated the use of that word.

 

[mayor]

Seems like the whole purpose of asking for the waiver at JFK was because of the construction, knowing that it would really screw things up there, this summer. The airlines that asked for the same thing at EWR, PHL, etc. sort of muddied the waters and it makes you wonder if that might be why the DOT refused to grant the waiver.