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The Constitutional Amendments have been defeated. 
5,032 No
2,728 Yes
5,032 No
2,728 Yes
Constitutional Amendments Defeated
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That is a rather resounding message to APFA that all is not well. The makers of these amendments, their supporters and elected members of the BOD and EC must be wondering about the direction of APFA. Probably 2000 of the NO votes were TWA, but even if true, the nAAtive membership is sending a big message to APFA that something is wrong with our leadership.
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jsn25911 said:
Yes, very sad. Only one third of the membership voted, mostly STL.
One down, one more to go.
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We are finally on the right track. This must be a sign of good things to come.
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There's some lesson (I'm not sure what though) in the fact that the only bases which voted for the amendments were DFW, ORD, SFO, SFOI, and RDU.
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jsn25911 said:
Not even a third of our membership voted. What an embarrassment!
But, we did send John WAArd off with a great memory!
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------LiveInAHotel said:Not even a third of our membership voted. What an embarrassment!
But, we did send John WAArd off with a great memory!
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wAArd certainly used a lot of "K Y", over these recent years !!
For his sake, I hope he saved a lil' dab for HIMSELF !!
NH/BB's
LiveInAHotel said:Not even a third of our membership voted. What an embarrassment!
But, we did send John WAArd off with a great memory!
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Its more than I expected. I think ex TWA people threw it over the top. Take out STL and see where we stood. I heard every ridiculous excuse. Consider on a national level how few people vote in Local, and state elections. Look how many people don't vote even for president when they are bombarded almost 24/7 with info and news about the candidates, and what it means about there future. In place where people are dying for the right to be heard and counted. This country looks at it as a chore, done only if I have the time. Not the duty to democracy that it truly is.
jimntx said:
Jim,
DFW and RDU does not surprise me. ORD and SFO-D/I does.
I truly hope that Liz Mallon did not support this. She seemed to try to bring up things that definitely concerned the membership at the last BOD meeting. This is according to the unofficial LGA minutes.
Like LIAH, I couldn't find the HELL NO! option on the ballot, so I had to settle with No. What are they thinking? IMHO, we screwed up by not allowing former TWA f/a's to assist us with concessionary talks. :angry:
I welcome the chance to work in the aisles with them. I fly out of STL/SLT so I think that is a pretty big statement.
They have never treated me with anything less than respect. I have total respect for them as well. I really hate using the term "them".
Coop
p.s. GO TOMMIE!
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FA Mikey said:
Actually, Mike, I take heart in the fact that the amendments would still have been defeated even in you take out the "TWA" vote. Just barely, but they would have been defeated. As to national elections, I just looked it up this morning.
1996 election was the only time that the number voters was below 50% of total eligible voters in a Presidential election year--49.1%. In 2000, it went back up to 51.3%--might have been higher, but for massive voter disenfranchisement in Florida
.The last time that voter participation in Presidential elections was above 60% of eligible voters was 1968--which incidentally was the first Presidential election that I voted in. (No, wait, I mean that was the first national election that my mother was eligible to vote in. Couldn't have been me. I mean that would make me over 55 years old. No wait. I am over 55. Oh well.
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