PSA's Training Department was evaulated and tested by the FAA yesterday on mini-evacuations on the 701. PSA's team impressed the FAA with record times and got an immediate stamp of approval. Validation flights commence at the end of this week and next. The question remaims who shall fly them? Watch for an announcement late summer early fall for an enterance to the 705 and the 900 series. MAA and PSA's momentum is astounding. Wish I worked for the WO's: the future of mainline USAirways.
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Don't worry. The way things are going you will soon!
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Skyguy25,
The grass is always greener on the other side. If you only knew a tenth of what is going on at Piedmont/Allegheny you wouldn't be envious.
The grass is always greener on the other side. If you only knew a tenth of what is going on at Piedmont/Allegheny you wouldn't be envious.
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Who DO you work for skyguy25? Every single one of your posts is about PSA and uses terms like "we" and "us". :huh:
I'm just recalling back in December to your first posts. You had heard a rumour that PSA and Piedmont were to merge, and were adamant that AFA DOH merger rules be ignored, because the PSA employees do such a good job they "earned" those jets. Then you suggested that the best thing for US Airways would be to "phase out Piedmont and Allegheny altogether." :angry:
I agree that the future of US Airways is SJs and RJs (although more so the 170 and family, most airlines are moving on from 50 seaters, we're just catching up). But if it were the future of "mainline" US Airways, that would mean mainline would be flying them.
If you dont work there, I'm not sure if I'd be envious... new equiptment is nice and all, but you have to be able to eat. I certainly wouldnt want to make $14 a flight hour! (PSA) :unsure: MAA's $18 is already poverty wage... I cant imagine on surviving on that, not to mention for less....
I'm just recalling back in December to your first posts. You had heard a rumour that PSA and Piedmont were to merge, and were adamant that AFA DOH merger rules be ignored, because the PSA employees do such a good job they "earned" those jets. Then you suggested that the best thing for US Airways would be to "phase out Piedmont and Allegheny altogether." :angry:
I agree that the future of US Airways is SJs and RJs (although more so the 170 and family, most airlines are moving on from 50 seaters, we're just catching up). But if it were the future of "mainline" US Airways, that would mean mainline would be flying them.
If you dont work there, I'm not sure if I'd be envious... new equiptment is nice and all, but you have to be able to eat. I certainly wouldnt want to make $14 a flight hour! (PSA) :unsure: MAA's $18 is already poverty wage... I cant imagine on surviving on that, not to mention for less....
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Never have used terms "we" and "us" go and re-read.
Light- I am just very interested in that division of our company. Why? not sure. I guess its because we can all see that alot of USAirways future is dependent on these Barbie Jets. If scope relief allows these planes to be flown at Mesa, working conditions, contracts, and everything else will not even make it worth to have a J4J program. I would rather be with a WO than an affiliate. Have spoken with many J4J guys that love PSA and would much rather put an end to all of this as soon as possible, rather than have the idea of Mesa or Trans hanging over their head.
I feel that PSA is just a little more involved in the reorganization plan than given credit for. not that i care personally, just monitoring the situation. But good to hear from you again Light! Take care!
Light- I am just very interested in that division of our company. Why? not sure. I guess its because we can all see that alot of USAirways future is dependent on these Barbie Jets. If scope relief allows these planes to be flown at Mesa, working conditions, contracts, and everything else will not even make it worth to have a J4J program. I would rather be with a WO than an affiliate. Have spoken with many J4J guys that love PSA and would much rather put an end to all of this as soon as possible, rather than have the idea of Mesa or Trans hanging over their head.
I feel that PSA is just a little more involved in the reorganization plan than given credit for. not that i care personally, just monitoring the situation. But good to hear from you again Light! Take care!
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skyguy,
you are right and wrong on several fronts. If the j4j pilots are happy over at PSA it is only because they are making more then they were before the recall. PSA if I am not mistaken has frozen there own pilots in the D-328 and so for now the J4J people are enjoying a little bit of seniority until the PSA guys come over to the RJ. Once again mainline ALPA will screw things up with the RJ700 for PSA with there silly demands that the J4J pilots recieve super seniority so they don't have to sit on reserve when they should never have been given the gift of J4J. It is once again the very arrogant mainline pilot group that has taken the jobs and and even more so the career expectations from the wo pilot group. may all the 170's and above got to MESA and then let them see just how bad working conditions can be. They can only try to dictate to the WO's for seniority. hang in ther psa do not give in to the arrogance of the mainline pilots, hold your feet to the ground you deserve the seniority that you have accrued.
you are right and wrong on several fronts. If the j4j pilots are happy over at PSA it is only because they are making more then they were before the recall. PSA if I am not mistaken has frozen there own pilots in the D-328 and so for now the J4J people are enjoying a little bit of seniority until the PSA guys come over to the RJ. Once again mainline ALPA will screw things up with the RJ700 for PSA with there silly demands that the J4J pilots recieve super seniority so they don't have to sit on reserve when they should never have been given the gift of J4J. It is once again the very arrogant mainline pilot group that has taken the jobs and and even more so the career expectations from the wo pilot group. may all the 170's and above got to MESA and then let them see just how bad working conditions can be. They can only try to dictate to the WO's for seniority. hang in ther psa do not give in to the arrogance of the mainline pilots, hold your feet to the ground you deserve the seniority that you have accrued.
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I just hate to see the companies pitted against each other, and especially the affiliates who have no concern for our company whatsoever. All US Airways Group employees share the same common goal of success for US Airways, and we all need to stop falling for the company's staged battles amongst the different groups.skyguy25 said:
There is growth (most of it replacement) at US Airways. There are jobs for everyone. If only the unions would use thier leverage (concessions) to be the first to demand a single seniority list and stop outsourcing, rather than a few senior people making choices that protect thier last few years while basically signing the company over to be a franchise.
I'm cautious about applauding growth and hiring at PSA while so many mainline people have been lost and the future of our Allegheny and Piedmont employees is shaky. I want growth to be for the entire company, not for a single "favored" subsidiary and definatly not for sweatshop affiliates that continue to drive the professions and the industry into the ground.
I also wish the company would just drop the CRJ700. The Embraer product is superior, and theres no point in having two seventy seat jets. For years US had every 100 seat variant there was- the point is to try and rationalize the fleet. I do get that the Ejets are as yet unproven, but either way we end up with two similar but dissimilar products and more competition between companies and employees. I'm all for simplicity! One list, four fleet types, four pay rates! B)
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Agreed. Simplicity. One of the problems at USAirways is the fact that we have a diverse fleet and that has been recognized- so what do they do? Order billions of dollars of two types of aircraft. I am confident that this was done to get as many planes on property as possible and EMB or BOM couldn't pump them out fast enough from a single order. The only thing that i disagree with you LY is that EMB is a better product. But thats why they make chocolate and vanilla B)
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I have always been more comfortable as a pax in an Embraer than in a CRJ, and I have been in a CRJ-700. The 200's are miserable.
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I speak of reliance and safety. Let's face it the EMB is made in a developing country. Of course it is more comfortable, but is it as safe? I think you would be able to find stats that would argue both positions quite well. i care not to do that here. Like i said Mercedes or Volvo, Ford or Chevy. Take your pick.
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Actually, a lot of cars that you think are one thing, are not. Most VW Jettas these days are produced in Mexico. Honda is produced in Ohio. The parts for many cars (crank shafts, blocks, and the like) are also of Mexican origin.
I'll note that both the CRJ and ERJ have had three hull losses. One ERJ was lost owing to incorrect manufacturing - the CO ERJ that cracked. An Eagle RJ collided with a hangar. Not sure of the 3d. I believe at least one or two CRJ crashes were pilot issues.
I'll note that both the CRJ and ERJ have had three hull losses. One ERJ was lost owing to incorrect manufacturing - the CO ERJ that cracked. An Eagle RJ collided with a hangar. Not sure of the 3d. I believe at least one or two CRJ crashes were pilot issues.
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