Big Airlines Seen Outperforming Low-cost Carriers

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Big airlines seen outperforming low-cost carriers
Thursday July 1, 4:14 pm ET


NEW YORK, July 1 (Reuters) - Shares of larger airlines, also known as legacy carriers, will outperform those of low-fare carriers in the second half of 2004, reversing a three-year trend in the airline industry, a Goldman Sachs analyst said on Thursday.
"The big airlines are losing less money. The smaller airlines are making less money," said Glenn Engel, airline analyst at Goldman Sachs. "They are closing the gap."

A faster-than-expected rebound in travel drove legacy carriers such as American Airlines, a unit of AMR Corp. (NYSE:AMR - News), and Continental Airlines (NYSE:CAL - News) to add capacity in the past year, after cutting back during the SARS epidemic and beginning of the Iraq war.

United Airlines (OTC BB:UALAQ.OB - News) is expected to expand its capacity by 5 to 6 percent this year, Engel said. "When an airline like United adds that kind of capacity, it's equal to creating an airline the size of Frontier," Engel said, referring to Denver-based low-cost carrier Frontier Airlines (NasdaqNM:FRNT - News).

Citing a key gauge of industry performance, Engel forecast a drop in second-quarter unit revenue, or revenue per available seat mile, for low-fare carriers, but a 4 percent rise in unit revenue at legacy airlines. Unit revenue at low-fare carriers rose 2 percent in the first quarter, compared to a 5 percent gain for legacy airlines, he said.

Engel also forecast a 1 to 2 percent rise in unit costs at low-fare airlines in the second quarter, which is seasonally the strongest period. He expects unit costs at larger airlines to fall 4 percent.

"Also, the larger airlines have a disproportionate exposure to international and business travel ... so they benefit more from a rebound in that area," Engel said.

However, Blaylock & Partners analyst Raymond Neidl said he expects no such reversal in the near future. "The legacy carriers are in big trouble. They have many things they need to overcome," he said.

"The low-cost carriers will continue to grab market share."

AMR shares slid 39 cents to end at $11.72 and Continental fell 39 cents to $10.98 on the New York Stock Exchange. JetBlue (NasdaqNM:JBLU - News) dropped 73 to $28.65 and Frontier Airlines edged down 17 cents to $10.71 on Nasdaq.
 
I agree with Engel's forceast stock prices could change because of a 1 to 2 percent rise in unit costs at low-fare airlines in the second quarter, which is seasonally the strongest period. He expects unit costs at larger airlines to fall 4 percent.

Interestingly the article noted Blaylock & Partners analyst Raymond Neidl said he expects no such reversal in the near future. "The legacy carriers are in big trouble. They have many things they need to overcome," he said. "The low-cost carriers will continue to grab market share."

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
 
In response to Independence Air introducing new service between Dulles and Syracuse and Nashville, US Airways made the following announcement:

More GoFares Announced

ARLINGTON (theHub.com) - US Airways today announced two new GoFares markets for Washington, D.C., area customers, offering simplified fares as low as $89 each way, available immediately, to and from Syracuse and Nashville. This further expands US Airways’ role as the largest low-fare carrier at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport. US Airways’ Washington-Syracuse GoFares start as low as $89 each way in Coach, with last minute fares as low as $139 each way. Washington-Nashville GoFares begin at $99 each way, with last minute fares available as low as $159 each way. The lowest fares for both Syracuse and Nashville require an advance purchase.

“We’ve heard positive feedback from our customers about GoFares, and we are pleased to continue their expansion into Nashville and Syracuse, both of which we serve nonstop from Reagan National,â€￾ said Ben Baldanza, senior vice president of marketing and revenue management. “Whether you’re flying for business or pleasure, GoFares make low-fare travel simpler and more convenient than ever.â€￾

Additionally, Seth, the GoFares guy, will be on the streets of Washington Thursday celebrating the addition of Syracuse and Nashville GoFares. He will be handing out special gifts that are representative of these two new GoFares markets, including country music CDs. US Airways first introduced Washington GoFares on June 18, making them available on 22 initial routes. Washington GoFares are simple, with no Coach fare ever more than $499 each way, and no Saturday-night stay requirement. US Airways introduced the first phase of GoFares in Philadelphia on April 29.

USA320Pilot comments: This news will lower US Airways revenue, but stimulate traffic. US Airways has no choice but to match the LCC fares or it will lose traffic to the competition, thus, the only way to become profitable is to lower unit costs.

Per 700UW's posting, Ray Neidl said, "The legacy carriers are in big trouble. They have many things they need to overcome," he said. "The low-cost carriers will continue to grab market share," with another example the Independence Air Dulles expansion that is going to grow and lower revenue even further.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
 
Cost-cutting on horizon - With United’s latest request for a $1B loan denied, layoffs and give-backs seem likely at many major carriers

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USA320Pilot
 
United's loan rejection may spur airlines to cut costs

PITTSBURGH (Tribune-Review) - United Airlines' failure to win federal backing for a $2 billion loan may make it easier for competitors including Delta Air Lines Inc. and US Airways Group Inc. to wrest wage and benefit cuts from workers.

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Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
 
This thread is turning so stupid. Like a pissing contest! I am sick of the whole thing. Both sides just keep posting the same crap over and over and over.
 
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I have done better, no need to waste my time and energy because EVERYONE on the boards knows when you are proven wrong about 99% of the time you ignore it and won't respond.

Don't you have a senior executive's butt to kiss this week?
 
With all due respect, I simply posted news articles that were relevant to the thread. Then in response some posters thought it was appropriate to insult others, which I believe is juvenile.
Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
 
USA320Pilot said:
700UW:

Come on, you can do better than that...

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot
Not a bad job...

I was actually impressed (This kinda falls under the principle of trying to have your oponent seem fanatical).

Ah... what entertainment these boards can provide when we keep our blood pressure under control.
 
USA320Pilot said:
USA320Pilot comments: This news will lower US Airways revenue, but stimulate traffic. US Airways has no choice but to match the LCC fares or it will lose traffic to the competition, thus, the only way to become profitable is to lower unit costs.
Thus as you say, your reasoning is based on this management’s business model. They are the ones making the decision to lower revenue and NOT labor, they are the ones who obviously believe this is the only approach.

They are thinking in the single dimensional plane instead of three or even four dimensional. So naturally their conclusion goes back to labor as the answer.

Labor has consistently been saying to look to other paths which management can't see.

Management sees a rectangle when others see a tetrahedron. Until their reasoning is corrected or the BOD gets people who can actually think out of the box, labor rightly so will deny addition concessions.

It doesn’t matter how many times you come on here justifying this totally inept management team who knows nothing of thinking out of the box, but only resorts to tyranny tactics to bring labor into submission. Trouble is, it's backfiring and blowing up in their face and why I give this airline a slim change of survival.
 
Look out Y'all! That pedestal is getting really high and you might lose your medical benefits. It's amazing that some people on this board think their s__t don't stink! I think some of you need to take a long vacation and detoxify.
 
Well, the truth is that the entire airline industry lives in a vacumn. Airlines look at each other for new ideas but what nobody wants to admit is that all the legacy airlines operate a broken business model that, by nature of labor contracts, is wildly unresposive to market conditions. It's no wonder that quality investors are hard to find for an industry designed to make money only in the best of times while tetering on exstinction in the worst.

And these guys are recommending that wherever possible - send it overseas!

"In blunt terms, the report by the Boston Consulting Group warns American firms that they risk extinction if they hesitate in shifting facilities to countries with low costs. That is partly because the potential savings are so vast, but the report also cites a view among U.S. executives that the quality of American workers is deteriorating."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...5-2004Jul1.html
 

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