American Increasing New York Flights

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American increasing New York flights

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American Airlines is adding flights to and from New York, raising the stakes in a showdown pitting the nation's largest carrier against Continental Airlines Inc. and storm-battered JetBlue Airways Corp.

American said Thursday that it will begin nonstop service between New York and Las Vegas -- a JetBlue stronghold -- in September, and add a few flights to other cities, including San Francisco.

The appeal of New York is obvious. It is the nation's largest city, a major tourist destination and a hub for international flights.

Perhaps even more important to American, New York is the nation's financial center and home to a large chunk of the Fortune 500. That creates a large number of first- and business-class travelers.

"They buy the premium seats and they fly the premium business routes -- L.A., Heathrow (in London), Asia. It's of particular interest to us because it's a lucrative corporate market," said David Cush, senior vice president for global sales at American's parent, AMR Corp.

American is putting $1.1 billion into a new terminal at New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport. It is also spending about $20 million to add amenities such as lie-flat seats and flat-screen televisions in first class on its Boeing 767 fleet, which will be used heavily in New York service, Cush said.

With that type of investment, the additional flights that Fort Worth-based American was announcing Thursday appear very modest.

It will add a sixth daily flight from JFK to San Francisco in August, a fourth flight from LaGuardia Airport to Atlanta in April, new American Eagle service to Cincinnati (four daily flights) and Louisville, Ky. (two flights), and a few other additions to places such as Haiti and Venezuela.

Cush conceded that the new service "is probably not huge in the number of departures or seats, but it's critical in the number of additional markets we're covering. Cincinnati and Louisville are growing as corporate markets." He predicted the Las Vegas flights will be loaded with Europeans using New York as a stepping stone to the gambling mecca.

American executives believe they can increase their share of the New York market. But Ray Neidl, an airline analyst at Calyon Securities in New York, said American faces tough obstacles, including Continental's hub just across the Hudson River in Newark, N.J., and JetBlue's dominance at JFK, where it accounts for more than one-fourth of all departures.

American expects to operate the additional New York flights with planes shifted from hubs in Dallas-Fort Worth and Chicago. Neidl said that was a wise approach, because it means American won't be increasing its overall supply of seats for sale -- just moving some of them to a richer market.

Continental offers about 50 percent more daily seats in the New York area than American, and it has added flights from Newark to additional cities in Europe in the past year. Dave Messing, a spokesman for Houston-based Continental, predicted that American's additional flights at LaGuardia and JFK would mostly compete with JetBlue and Delta Air Lines Inc.

Cush said it was coincidence that American is announcing its New York plans a week after JetBlue stranded hundreds of passengers on local runways for up to 10 hours during a storm.

Jenny Dervin, a spokeswoman for New York-based JetBlue, was confident a new terminal will help prevent a repeat, and that customers won't stay mad forever.

She added that by the time American begins service with a single daily nonstop to Las Vegas, JetBlue will be operating six daily nonstops on the route. JetBlue also announced last month it would begin service to San Francisco in May.

Of the new competition in New York, Dervin said, "That's life in the big city."
 
Good thing they waited until jetblue was firmly entrenched in the market to begin LAS service from JFK. :rolleyes:

What about LGA-LAS as a Saturday only service, seeing as there are no perimeter restrictions on Saturday? Nah, make too much sense...
 
Widebody? Not a chance. Without a doubt, it will be a 757 (just like JFK-SEA/SAN).

I would be curious to see who is actually going to work these new flights. We are short already domestically at LGA and adding more flights will only make the situation more interesting.


What Unity?
 
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I would be curious to see who is actually going to work these new flights. We are short already domestically at LGA and adding more flights will only make the situation more interesting.
What Unity?

They just announced some new flights out of EWR too.

1. EWR-SAN

2. EWR-SEA

3. EWR-SFO

4. EWR-LAX (goes to 3 per day)

JFK-SAN is currently a 757 M-F and a 767 S-S. It will be going to a 767, 7 days a week this spring.

It should be interesting to see who gets the flights.
 
I would be curious to see who is actually going to work these new flights. We are short already domestically at LGA and adding more flights will only make the situation more interesting.
What Unity?

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"Make the situation MORE interesting"

If your shorthanded(as you say Flyboy4u), it should be "interesting" to Management ONLY !!

Being from NY, I'm SURE that the FSC's already know what to DO, if MORE work is piled on to an already short staffed ramp !!

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Trips can be flown out of any base. Just because these trips begin, or end, in NY doesn't mean that NY based crews will fly them.

EWR-SEA could easily be flown by an ORD or DFW crew, as part of a multi-day sequence.
 
[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='459754' date='Feb 23 2007, 07:55 AM']They just announced some new flights out of EWR too.

1. EWR-SAN

2. EWR-SEA

3. EWR-SFO

4. EWR-LAX (goes to 3 per day)

JFK-SAN is currently a 757 M-F and a 767 S-S. It will be going to a 767, 7 days a week this spring.

It should be interesting to see who gets the flights.[/quote]

Do you have a link for this information? I have not been able to find information on these new EWR flights.
 
More EWR flights? Good.Recall the POS part timers that bumped into LGA and have major league attitudes, like they're doing us a favor showing up on a flight. :blink:

It's especially funny when it's coming from someone with Jan 05 seniority... :lol:
 
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Do you have a link for this information? I have not been able to find information on these new EWR flights.

From Jetnet:

AA Singing its Own New York Song

Among all the songs about New York City, American has been singing its own in the Greater New York area for more than 80 years.

Loving the customers it flies in June and every other month of the year, American understands the needs of New York passengers - and provides the global network, competitive fares and long-standing commitment to the Greater New York community.

StAAte of Mind

This week, AA launches an initiative to become the clear-cut choice in the minds of any customer traveling to and from the New York area, launching additional routes and enhanced offers and promotions in the coming weeks and months.

"We want to make it crystal clear that American Airlines and American Eagle are the airlines of choice for the greater New York area," said David Cush, Senior Vice President -- Global Sales. "It's no secret that New York is a critical market for all major airlines, especially American. We want to be No. 1 - the preferred airline - in New York."

One of the most visible reasons New Yorkers have to make AA their preferred airline is American's new $1.1 billion state-of-the-art terminal at JFK scheduled for completion later this summer. The terminal features nearly 1.5 million square feet, 36 gates, 101 ticketing positions and 10 security checkpoint lanes that can process more than 1,900 passengers an hour, which will provide for the region's future travel needs for years to come.

"American's new terminal at JFK is world class in every respect," said Chuck Imhof, Vice President of Passenger Sales - Greater New York. "From the dramatic 57,000-square foot lobby in the Main Terminal with its 65-foot ceiling, to the two new Admirals Club Lounges and Flagship Lounge, the terminal is truly fitting of the stature of a great city like New York. All of us at American and American Eagle are thrilled that we can offer this to our customers."

Start Spreadin' the News

But there's more. Later this summer, American will add a sixth daily flight from JFK to San Francisco, boosting American's transcontinental service to 22 daily flights from JFK and Newark to Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego and Seattle. And new service from JFK to Las Vegas will begin in September to give New York-area customers a new leisure destination.

For passengers traveling to the Caribbean and South America, American plans to increase the number of weekly roundtrips later this year between JFK and Port-au- Prince, Haiti, and Caracas, Venezuela.

On April 10, American Eagle will add new service from LaGuardia Airport to Cincinnati. American Airlines will add one mainline jet flight to complement existing American Eagle service from LaGuardia to Raleigh/Durham, N.C., making it the only airline to offer mainline jet service between LaGuardia and Raleigh/Durham. Service from Atlanta to LaGuardia will be converted to all mainline jet service with four daily flights. Later this year, American Eagle plans to begin service from LaGuardia to Louisville, Ky.
 
[quote name='Nor'Easta' post='461246' date='Feb 28 2007, 02:14 AM']From Jetnet:

But there's more. Later this summer, American will add a sixth daily flight from JFK to San Francisco, boosting American's transcontinental service to 22 daily flights from JFK and Newark to Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego and Seattle. And new service from JFK to Las Vegas will begin in September to give New York-area customers a new leisure destination.[/quote]

Nowhere does it say that they are launching EWR-SFO/SEA/SAN. It says that there will be a total of 22 flights between JFK/EWR-LAX/SFO/SEA/SAN.

EWR-SEA/SAN/SFO are not happening.
 

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