Aa Shrinks In Fll, Gain For Spirit/us Air?

[enilria]

Looks like AA will cut a lot of FLL flights as part of their retrenchment in January 05.

Included are:

Boston (from two to zero roundtrips)
Caracas (one to zero)
LAX (four to two)
LGA (four to three)
Santo Domingo (one to zero)
St. Louis (two to one)

I believe that will leave them with about 20 flights remaining.

Who gains? US Airways/Spirit?

 

[USAir757]

It is a good thing for US and NK, but really doesn't change the game. Moving forward, if US wants to make the FLL focus in the caribbean work, then they will always still be contending with MIA. AA, in a move to perhaps stop some bleeding, can concede FLL, knowing full well that MIA is the true crown jewel to the caribbean.

 

[JFK777]

Fll will always be a ajunct to MIA, they complement each other but their core traffic is different. MIA is international with some domestic at FLL it's the other way around mostly SONG, JB, DELTA, UA, US & AA with some Avianca and Air Jamaica. When some one flies from FLL to London, that's when FLL wil truly join the big leagues. I mean a real legit operator, not the latest charter cum scheduled airline with a sardine configured 20 year old rust bucket. JB should apply, if they ever turn JFK into a European operation then, FLL would make the logical southern anchor. Since FLL is already JB biggest operation outside JFK.

 

[FA Mikey]

JFK is right. AA is still the 800 LB gorilla in S. Florida. AA is moving against point to point flying, and moving back to its strong hub and spoke. If AA cant make a strong showing in FLL SDQ will its presance in both cities. I question how bankrupt U will be able to make any showing at all. The market is not there, reguardless of the statistics that show lots of Domicans living in Broward county.

 

[USAir757]

When some one flies from FLL to London, that's when FLL wil truly join the big leagues.

Not going to happen. The South Florida market may be big, but it is not big enough to support two Trans-continental airports 20 miles away from one another. Not only that, but the international terminal is packed with Bahamas and Caribbean hoppers, and there is virtually no further room to expand.

AA is moving against point to point flying, and moving back to its strong hub and spoke. If AA cant make a strong showing in FLL SDQ will its presance in both cities. I question how bankrupt U will be able to make any showing at all.

Is AA moving away from point to point? I was not aware of that. Certainly wouldn't seem to make sense to me, simply because the costs are too high to compete. If that is the case, it will help out airlines like Song, B6, NK, etc... who are desperate to have some seats drop out of their point to point markets.

 

[FWAAA]

Is AA moving away from point to point? I was not aware of that. Certainly wouldn't seem to make sense to me, simply because the costs are too high to compete. If that is the case, it will help out airlines like Song, B6, NK, etc... who are desperate to have some seats drop out of their point to point markets.

[post="197354"][/post]​

AA is most definitely cutting some point to point service, especially from BOS and FLL. During the 3Q conference call, Arpey mentioned that the majority of service cutbacks planned for early 2005 involved point to point flying in markets which can be served by connections.

With 90-some new flights planned for DFW in the coming months, AA is focused on its hubs instead of point to point.

 

[eolesen]

AA is most definitely cutting some point to point service, especially from BOS and FLL. During the 3Q conference call, Arpey mentioned that the majority of service cutbacks planned for early 2005 involved point to point flying in markets which can be served by connections.

[post="197380"][/post]​

Just looking at 4Q04 vs 4Q03 for AA (no Eagle/Conx), it's virtually flat.

7 P2P markets were cut since Dec03, 9 P2P markets were added, net loss 4 flights
8 P2p markets saw reduced service, 15 markets saw increases., net gain 9 flights