2008Q3 to 2009Q3 Hub Stats

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Interesting Airport Stats for US Airways Hubs.


PAX O&D O&D Gross Fare 2009 Q3 info
Airport 2008Q3 2009Q3 %change 2008Q3 2009Q3 %change Adjusted Yield Ave LOH
CLT 2,166,535 2,348,648 +8.4% $202.67 $193.18 -4.7% 7.47¢ 915
PHL 4,176,458 4,146,694 -0.7% $191.00 $186.28 -2.5% 15.06¢ 1,146
PHX 5,427,897 5,484,700 +1.0% $187.07 $172.38 -7.9% 13.57¢ 1,198

These are from the Boyd Group see the full report below.

http://www.aviationplanning.com/Images/4Q2009Report.pdf
 
Dog Wonder said:
Why is this interesting?
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If there ever was a merger between AA and US, this becomes interesting in the interplay between JFK and PHL. People have said AA would downsize PHL in favor of JFK, but both have almost the same O&D, but with AA having a market share of 14% at JFK (with capacity controls)and US having a nearly 60% market share at PHL (and SW cutting flights), I just do not see it. With any merger the O&D at both would allow each to stand as nearby hubs without downsizing either.
 
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Off the top of head it is Around US 46%, SW 34% others 20%.

That just for flights not O&D, but will give you an idea.
 
strangiatotheme said:
I think Southwest captures around 60%. There's a graph of it out there somewhere on the intertubes, probably buried in the azcentral archives.
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Everything I can find is about what UPNAWAY quoted. Keep in mind that this study, while interesting, is only for domestic O&D so cities like PHL, JFK, and MIA probably appear lower than they really are. Interesting, none the less. While US Airways hubs aren't the best for O&D, they certainly aren't the worst. Plus, if you look at the average yield for LAS, it really makes the case for closing the hub. :(.

EDIT: Found updated stats - US Airways is at 38% and SWA is at 31%.
 
The point of all this as some have wondered, is having a west coast hub is a GOOD thing. So you sheepshaggers (you know who you are) stop wishing we were back to being just an east coast airline and lets start showing some love for PHX. mmmmk?
 
JetMonkey said:
The point of all this as some have wondered, is having a west coast hub is a GOOD thing. So you sheepshaggers (you know who you are) stop wishing we were back to being just an east coast airline and lets start showing some love for PHX. mmmmk?
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Having a west coast hub is a good thing because it does give US a nationwide presence that the old US-East lacked, but that doesn't mean that the PHX hub is profitable on a stand alone basis.

Furthermore, I must ask the same question other posters have asked, that being "Why is this so interesting?" A simple look at the populations of the metro areas ought to tell you that PHX should have more than double the O&D that CLT does.
 
strangiatotheme said:
For O&D or total traffic?
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Total traffic. I could not find anything that broke it down to just O&D.
USCapt is correct that population alone should tell us who would have greater O&D. I just found the average yield, stage length, etc. interesting when compared to various markets.
 
ABEFLYER said:
If there ever was a merger between AA and US, this becomes interesting in the interplay between JFK and PHL. People have said AA would downsize PHL in favor of JFK, but both have almost the same O&D, but with AA having a market share of 14% at JFK (with capacity controls)and US having a nearly 60% market share at PHL (and SW cutting flights), I just do not see it. With any merger the O&D at both would allow each to stand as nearby hubs without downsizing either.
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Are these numbers domestic O&D or total O&D (which would include international)? There's no way PHL has anywhere near as much international O&D as JFK, and that's the primary reason AA is at JFK. PHL is a great city but its international traffic pales in comparison to NYC.
 
UPNAWAY said:
Interesting Airport Stats for US Airways Hubs.


PAX O&D O&D Gross Fare 2009 Q3 info
Airport 2008Q3 2009Q3 %change 2008Q3 2009Q3 %change Adjusted Yield Ave LOH
CLT 2,166,535 2,348,648 +8.4% $202.67 $193.18 -4.7% 7.47¢ 915
PHL 4,176,458 4,146,694 -0.7% $191.00 $186.28 -2.5% 15.06¢ 1,146
PHX 5,427,897 5,484,700 +1.0% $187.07 $172.38 -7.9% 13.57¢ 1,198

These are from the Boyd Group see the full report below.

http://www.aviationplanning.com/Images/4Q2009Report.pdf
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You misquoted the CLT adjusted yield. It's not 7.47¢, it's 17.47¢. The adjusted yield is nearly 4¢ higher than PHX.
 
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