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[AC AA LA FA]

This thread is terribly anti Gailen .... The voices here truly do not echo the sentiments on the line. He has become a folk hero of sorts. Few if any disagree that with this management team in place our future looks uncertain at best. (line employees, active) You may not think he is funny, thats fine...but..he is not a slacker/malcontent that stands for nothing. He has tried to be part of the solution for years and just got fed up with all the BS handed down by CP.

I stand behind his principles. I have been in his shoes....well, not the 5 inch stilettos, but you know what I mean....

[eolesen]

AC AA LA FA, on 21 March 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

This thread is terribly anti Gailen .... The voices here truly do not echo the sentiments on the line. He has become a folk hero of sorts.

Well, he may have fans in MIA, but based on signatures, it's possible that maybe the sentiments on the line aren't as deep as you think they are...

Why hasn't he been able to attract at least half of APFA's membership to sign his petition by now?

I'm not anti-Gailen -- I think he has a wicked sense of humor.

What I do have a problem with people who think they're above the law when it comes to following Regs...

Who can honestly say they didn't know they couldn't have an Admirals Club membership as an employee? That was covered during training... it was in the Trip Book, and is a policy that dates back to CR Smith...

Who can honestly say that they didn't know posting the itineraries of other employees was not only a breach of security but also a serious invasion of privacy?

He'd be wise to tone things down before he winds up with a lawsuit.

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eolesen, on 21 March 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

Well, he may have fans in MIA, but based on signatures, it's possible that maybe the sentiments on the line aren't as deep as you think they are...

Why hasn't he been able to attract at least half of APFA's membership to sign his petition by now?

I'm not anti-Gailen -- I think he has a wicked sense of humor.

What I do have a problem with people who think they're above the law when it comes to following Regs...

Who can honestly say they didn't know they couldn't have an Admirals Club membership as an employee? That was covered during training... it was in the Trip Book, and is a policy that dates back to CR Smith...

Who can honestly say that they didn't know posting the itineraries of other employees was not only a breach of security but also a serious invasion of privacy?

He'd be wise to tone things down before he winds up with a lawsuit.

Truthfully I don't see how employees holding Admirals Club memberships is an issue. Why are they allowed to purchase day passes but not annual memberships? Can they enter with the Citi and Amex cards that provide access? I can understand why the company doesn't want employees in the lounge when traveling on passes but if it's a revenue ticket why shouldn't they be treated like other passengers? I have a customer relationship with my employer and other than labeling my account as an employee I get access to everything other customers do.

Josh

[eolesen]

It's all about perception. The original prohibition was the thought that employees were bound to congregate (just as co-workers from other companies are prone to do today in the clubs), and paying customers overhearing the conversation wouldn't know they were on paying tickets.

I didn't know that day passes were an option to employees, and that does muddy the water quite a bit. As crowded as the clubs lounges can be at times, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a cut-off on the number of day passes they'll sell, but a full member can't be denied access.

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eolesen, on 22 March 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

It's all about perception. The original prohibition was the thought that employees were bound to congregate (just as co-workers from other companies are prone to do today in the clubs), and paying customers overhearing the conversation wouldn't know they were on paying tickets.

I didn't know that day passes were an option to employees, and that does muddy the water quite a bit. As crowded as the clubs lounges can be at times, it wouldn't surprise me if there's a cut-off on the number of day passes they'll sell, but a full member can't be denied access.

According to this letterGailen David posted employees may receive access from one day passes but no memberships.

I assume senior management or the executives with pass privileges as part of their retirement package are permitted access. Interesting Mr. David has never called out union officials receive confirmed, positive space pass privileges.

Josh

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eolesen, on 21 March 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

What I do have a problem with people who think they're above the law when it comes to following Regs...

I guess it's fair to say, "I have a problem with companies like AA that fail to honor labor agreements, and pension contribution obligations".

[frontline]

A folk hero?? More like a lazy bum who deserved to be FIRED. I cannot believe he has not worked in YEARS and yet had all kinds of time and energy to be on Facebook all the time. He is right up there with the Jetblue idiot who popped the slide and ran out with a beer in his hand.