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[texasreb]

WorldTraveler, on 09 February 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

except that DL has said that they do overhauls for other carriers because they must in order to get other parts of the contract which they otherwise could not obtain and which are more valuable.
The point of the AM partnership is to ship out the work that DL says doesn't make sense to do even on their own planes while keeping the engine and component work.
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AA will figure out their own strategy but I fully expect that AA will indeed become a major player in the MRO business eventually. They have too much invested and too many capabilities not to use it in a business that can make a lot of money. DL says Tech Ops does about $500M per year in business at 10% or better margins. AA is certainly going to try to add that kind of money to its own business plan - and most of it can be obtained w/ very little additional resources.

The only problem to your theory is that American is essentially firing over half of their overhaul mechanics.

[Buck]

texasreb, on 09 February 2012 - 04:56 PM, said:

The only problem to your theory is that American is essentially firing over half of their overhaul mechanics.

No, the are firing over half of Mechanic and Related.

Can you tell me what that means?

OSM is basically $21 and no license premium and a Mechanic and Related. $27.20 + $5.00.

The TWU normal method is to save jobs over money. It basically which method can generate the most revenue for the TWU International.


The OSM, staffing will be increased by 450, however the term sheet indicate that the use of non-licensed mechanics are to used in locations where an A&P is not required.

[texasreb]

Buck, on 09 February 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

No, the are firing over half of Mechanic and Related.

Can you tell me what that means?

OSM is basically $21 and no license premium and a Mechanic and Related. $27.20 + $5.00.

The TWU normal method is to save jobs over money. It basically which method can generate the most revenue for the TWU International.


The OSM, staffing will be increased by 450, however the term sheet indicate that the use of non-licensed mechanics are to used in locations where an A&P is not required.

The union is telling everyone in the AFW hangar that they do not have enough seniority to bump the system. If you get layed off from a station that no longer exists, you are terminated.

[Buck]

texasreb, on 09 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

The union is telling everyone in the AFW hangar that they do not have enough seniority to bump the system. If you get layed off from a station that no longer exists, you are terminated.

Is there a letter?

[paul1]

some guys will be able to bump, but yes alot of guys willn't and unfortunately be on the street

[Buster CRC]

Tulsa has approx. 5685 TWU in Tulsa. Of which 3761 are AMT 563 are OSM 130 aircraft cleaners and 94 parts washers which are all Title I. We have 473 title II 531 stores and 100 FSC at base. If they stick to the lay off numbers of 2100 union people in Tulsa and don't back off outsourcing of title II and FSC that would put about 1182 Title I on the street leaving approx date of around 12/95. But then there is the process of bumping to backfill part washers, cleaners and OSM. Doing math I think some of the AFW guys do have enough time to bump to TULE. But then why would the TWU fellers lie.

[dvlhog212]

texasreb, on 09 February 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

The union is telling everyone in the AFW hangar that they do not have enough seniority to bump the system. If you get layed off from a station that no longer exists, you are terminated.

Everyone? Nobody has said a word to me nor anyone on my crew/dock. I have plenty of senority to bump the system. Try sticking to facts.

[strikeforce]

Buster CRC, on 09 February 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:

Tulsa has approx. 5685 TWU in Tulsa. Of which 3761 are AMT 563 are OSM 130 aircraft cleaners and 94 parts washers which are all Title I. We have 473 title II 531 stores and 100 FSC at base. If they stick to the lay off numbers of 2100 union people in Tulsa and don't back off outsourcing of title II and FSC that would put about 1182 Title I on the street leaving approx date of around 12/95. But then there is the process of bumping to backfill part washers, cleaners and OSM. Doing math I think some of the AFW guys do have enough time to bump to TULE. But then why would the TWU fellers lie.

We are one week into this term sheet and NOT one TWU representative that was in that meeting with the company has informed the membership the REAL numbers. Is it 2100 amt's in Tulsa that are losing their jobs or 2100 workers losing their job in Tulsa??? If it's the latter, then you're right Buster. What's the overall breakdown within ALL classifications????

WTF TWU!!!!!