All righty.
Full disclosure, I have only slogged through half of the agreement at best.
Here's what I see:
1/ We'll be paid lower than Continental, lower than Southwest. Higher than United for the five minutes before they get a joint contract and bring themselves up to Continental or better. (Most likely theirs won't take 7 years either).
2/ They got PBS and didn't pay a dime for it, since that mediocre raise was due regardless.
3/ They got the CSD program in . AGAIN, not paying a dime for it.
4/ AWA flight attendants lost vacation and health benefits. Got a raise, but it's probably a wash, considering they've been due for what? Twelve years now?
5/ We got rid of weekend touch, just to get nailed with it on holidays. Middle seniority and squeaked out the holiday via bidsheet? GOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE!
6/ Nothing done to address the hotel problems we've been having
7/ NOTHING addressing INDUSTRY STANDARD REST AREAS FOR LONG HAUL INTERNATIONAL.
8/ NOTHING done about inadequate staffing. FYI, we're the worst staffed in the industry.
That's all I can think of right now. This agreement reeks of COST NEUTRAL.
For seven years work, they ought to be ashamed.
It has huge concessions and very little gain.
#1
Posted 06 February 2012 - 04:22 PM
#2
Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:38 PM
Agreed
#3
Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:47 PM
galley princess, on 06 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
All righty.
Full disclosure, I have only slogged through half of the agreement at best.
Here's what I see:
1/ We'll be paid lower than Continental, lower than Southwest. Higher than United for the five minutes before they get a joint contract and bring themselves up to Continental or better. (Most likely theirs won't take 7 years either).
2/ They got PBS and didn't pay a dime for it, since that mediocre raise was due regardless.
3/ They got the CSD program in . AGAIN, not paying a dime for it.
4/ AWA flight attendants lost vacation and health benefits. Got a raise, but it's probably a wash, considering they've been due for what? Twelve years now?
5/ We got rid of weekend touch, just to get nailed with it on holidays. Middle seniority and squeaked out the holiday via bidsheet? GOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE!
6/ Nothing done to address the hotel problems we've been having
7/ NOTHING addressing INDUSTRY STANDARD REST AREAS FOR LONG HAUL INTERNATIONAL.
8/ NOTHING done about inadequate staffing. FYI, we're the worst staffed in the industry.
That's all I can think of right now. This agreement reeks of COST NEUTRAL.
For seven years work, they ought to be ashamed.
It has huge concessions and very little gain.
Full disclosure, I have only slogged through half of the agreement at best.
Here's what I see:
1/ We'll be paid lower than Continental, lower than Southwest. Higher than United for the five minutes before they get a joint contract and bring themselves up to Continental or better. (Most likely theirs won't take 7 years either).
2/ They got PBS and didn't pay a dime for it, since that mediocre raise was due regardless.
3/ They got the CSD program in . AGAIN, not paying a dime for it.
4/ AWA flight attendants lost vacation and health benefits. Got a raise, but it's probably a wash, considering they've been due for what? Twelve years now?
5/ We got rid of weekend touch, just to get nailed with it on holidays. Middle seniority and squeaked out the holiday via bidsheet? GOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE!
6/ Nothing done to address the hotel problems we've been having
7/ NOTHING addressing INDUSTRY STANDARD REST AREAS FOR LONG HAUL INTERNATIONAL.
8/ NOTHING done about inadequate staffing. FYI, we're the worst staffed in the industry.
That's all I can think of right now. This agreement reeks of COST NEUTRAL.
For seven years work, they ought to be ashamed.
It has huge concessions and very little gain.
Dear Galley Princess,
Thank you for taking the time to do what sadly few will do. Most will B*tch, Moan and Complain. However few will do as you have. Actually read the damn thing and draw your own conclusions. Please keep posting. Just curious has the Reserve system been improved?
Truth Is Treason In The Empire of Lies
#4
Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:49 PM
SparrowHawk, on 06 February 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:
Dear Galley Princess,
Thank you for taking the time to do what sadly few will do. Most will B*tch, Moan and Complain. However few will do as you have. Actually read the damn thing and draw your own conclusions. Please keep posting. Just curious has the Reserve system been improved?
Thank you for taking the time to do what sadly few will do. Most will B*tch, Moan and Complain. However few will do as you have. Actually read the damn thing and draw your own conclusions. Please keep posting. Just curious has the Reserve system been improved?
#5
Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:58 PM
ChockJockey, on 06 February 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:
Actually if you re-read her post it says she's only read through half of it so far.
I missed that! Went right to the bullet points. Sorry I can't be as perfect in every way as you are. Never mind that your post is irrelevant
Truth Is Treason In The Empire of Lies
#6
Posted 06 February 2012 - 06:02 PM
Thanks for Posting Princess.. Boy am i gonna have a lot of questions at the roadshow's ..
#7
Posted 06 February 2012 - 06:26 PM
#8
Posted 06 February 2012 - 07:20 PM
galley princess, on 06 February 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
All righty.
Full disclosure, I have only slogged through half of the agreement at best.
Here's what I see:
1/ We'll be paid lower than Continental, lower than Southwest. Higher than United for the five minutes before they get a joint contract and bring themselves up to Continental or better. (Most likely theirs won't take 7 years either).
2/ They got PBS and didn't pay a dime for it, since that mediocre raise was due regardless.
3/ They got the CSD program in . AGAIN, not paying a dime for it.
4/ AWA flight attendants lost vacation and health benefits. Got a raise, but it's probably a wash, considering they've been due for what? Twelve years now?
5/ We got rid of weekend touch, just to get nailed with it on holidays. Middle seniority and squeaked out the holiday via bidsheet? GOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE!
6/ Nothing done to address the hotel problems we've been having
7/ NOTHING addressing INDUSTRY STANDARD REST AREAS FOR LONG HAUL INTERNATIONAL.
8/ NOTHING done about inadequate staffing. FYI, we're the worst staffed in the industry.
That's all I can think of right now. This agreement reeks of COST NEUTRAL.
For seven years work, they ought to be ashamed.
It has huge concessions and very little gain.
Full disclosure, I have only slogged through half of the agreement at best.
Here's what I see:
1/ We'll be paid lower than Continental, lower than Southwest. Higher than United for the five minutes before they get a joint contract and bring themselves up to Continental or better. (Most likely theirs won't take 7 years either).
2/ They got PBS and didn't pay a dime for it, since that mediocre raise was due regardless.
3/ They got the CSD program in . AGAIN, not paying a dime for it.
4/ AWA flight attendants lost vacation and health benefits. Got a raise, but it's probably a wash, considering they've been due for what? Twelve years now?
5/ We got rid of weekend touch, just to get nailed with it on holidays. Middle seniority and squeaked out the holiday via bidsheet? GOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEE!
6/ Nothing done to address the hotel problems we've been having
7/ NOTHING addressing INDUSTRY STANDARD REST AREAS FOR LONG HAUL INTERNATIONAL.
8/ NOTHING done about inadequate staffing. FYI, we're the worst staffed in the industry.
That's all I can think of right now. This agreement reeks of COST NEUTRAL.
For seven years work, they ought to be ashamed.
It has huge concessions and very little gain.
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