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[ograc]

I invite input from all on the following:
On a scale from one to ten, one being the lowest and ten being the highest, where would you rate the members' apathy level regarding issues surrounding the ongoing contract negotiations for the Fleet Service at US Airways in your station? It's time to start identifying the obstacles we need to overcome.
orgac

[bpsolo]

ograc, on 03 February 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

I invite input from all on the following:
On a scale from one to ten, one being the lowest and ten being the highest, where would you rate the members' apathy level regarding issues surrounding the ongoing contract negotiations for the Fleet Service at US Airways in your station? It's time to start identifying the obstacles we need to overcome.
orgac

Haven't heard from anyone who even knows about any of the talking points of the contract there negotiating?

[robbedagain]

I doubt that talks have even started period.  given we are the third class citizens of the titanic with our union when it comes to negogiations but one thing i would like to see is enhanced better scope/language merger protections better sick wages benefits vacations etc

[700UW]

Negotiations update

[Tim Nelson]

robbedagain, on 04 February 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

I doubt that talks have even started period.  given we are the third class citizens of the titanic with our union when it comes to negogiations but one thing i would like to see is enhanced better scope/language merger protections better sick wages benefits vacations etc

Robbed again,

I couldn't have said it any better.  The negotiations update was simply "We talked about overtime, etc".  Essentially, no update at all and completely non transparent.  What is even more disturbing is the lack of urgency. Delaney doesn't care.  He sets up negotiations every 6 weeks.  When United opened up their negotiations they often negotiated for 3 weeks a month.  I imagine that he is playing politics and that he wanted to make sure he flew around on your dime for the month of March campaigning and telling everyone that he loves them so much.  One thing I'm sure he won't be saying this time though is what he told CLT last time, i.e., "If I don't show up here but for elections then vote for someone else.".   Well, it's election time so he's coming around the corner once again!

Onward Occupyiam141!

Tim

[ograc]

Tim Nelson, on 05 February 2012 - 12:47 PM, said:

Robbed again,

I couldn't have said it any better.  The negotiations update was simply "We talked about overtime, etc".  Essentially, no update at all and completely non transparent.  What is even more disturbing is the lack of urgency. Delaney doesn't care.  He sets up negotiations every 6 weeks.  When United opened up their negotiations they often negotiated for 3 weeks a month.  I imagine that he is playing politics and that he wanted to make sure he flew around on your dime for the month of March campaigning and telling everyone that he loves them so much.  One thing I'm sure he won't be saying this time though is what he told CLT last time, i.e., "If I don't show up here but for elections then vote for someone else.".   Well, it's election time so he's coming around the corner once again!

Onward Occupyiam141!

Tim

definate lack of urgency for US Airways Fleet as always. The main focus I'm sure is first the PCE election at UA and then onto the Officer election in June. At  this rate I may be retired before we get another agreement. Tim, I know you had your reasons for leaving your position, but based on the results of the Air Tran organizing campaign I wish you were still on board for the PCE organizing drive at UA.
Ograc

[Tim Nelson]

ograc, on 05 February 2012 - 02:21 PM, said:

definate lack of urgency for US Airways Fleet as always. The main focus I'm sure is first the PCE election at UA and then onto the Officer election in June. At  this rate I may be retired before we get another agreement. Tim, I know you had your reasons for leaving your position, but based on the results of the Air Tran organizing campaign I wish you were still on board for the PCE organizing drive at UA.
Ograc

Wouldn't have worked out ograc.  As I was organizing victories for our troops, I was coming home only to have Delaney cut deals against the people we organized and screw them over, and I didn't sign on to that.  Delaney has absolutely destroyed each property and now management has NO respect at all for fleet.  The AGC's flipped like pancakes on the members just like those who were in their position prior.  

The union has alot of leverage at this time so if we clean up the deadwood we ought to be in great shape by signing each contract, your contract before any merger. To be clear, I am not going to enter transition talks at US AIRWAYS and waive off your wages and benefits like Delaney did over at United.  I have no interest in helping management make a merger seamless unless and until all of our members are taken care of first.  Once a union makes bed with management by walking into transitions......well, you already know what happened in 2008.

Onward Occupy 141

Tim

[ograc]

Tim Nelson, on 05 February 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

Wouldn't have worked out ograc.  As I was organizing victories for our troops, I was coming home only to have Delaney cut deals against the people we organized and screw them over, and I didn't sign on to that.  Delaney has absolutely destroyed each property and now management has NO respect at all for fleet.  The AGC's flipped like pancakes on the members just like those who were in their position prior.  

The union has alot of leverage at this time so if we clean up the deadwood we ought to be in great shape by signing each contract, your contract before any merger. To be clear, I am not going to enter transition talks at US AIRWAYS and waive off your wages and benefits like Delaney did over at United.  I have no interest in helping management make a merger seamless unless and until all of our members are taken care of first.  Once a union makes bed with management by walking into transitions......well, you already know what happened in 2008.

Onward Occupy 141

Tim

Understood. I have concerns wheather the IAM is going to win representation rights in that election. If we lose there we lose a lot of leverage and potential dues paying members. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I read you right, it seems you are expecting some type of merger or acquisition with AA in the future. Is the Occupy 141 website up and running?
ograc