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There's always a reason why it's not management's fault, isn't there? Do they have you on retainer? Your better than Missy what's her name at explaining away stuff the company doesn't want looked at.
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View Postjimntx, on 16 February 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

There's always a reason why it's not management's fault, isn't there? Do they have you on retainer? Your better than Missy what's her name at explaining away stuff the company doesn't want looked at.

No, there are excuse makers that seem to be able to explain why management never had any foresight to keep us out of this mess. Just for fun, l watched a video on jetnet where Lauri Curtis is at a town hall meeting. Someone in the audience asked her where American Airlines will be in 5 years. Her answer......drum roll please....."Good question! I really don't know where we will be." Now that's foresight for you!!!

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View Postcommavia, on 16 February 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

Still talking about me, and not the points I'm making? Alright.
Explain this please. This sounds as best weird :unsure: and at worst sick. :blink:
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View Postjimntx, on 16 February 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

There's always a reason why it's not management's fault, isn't there? Do they have you on retainer? Your better than Missy what's her name at explaining away stuff the company doesn't want looked at.
Nice example of a non-sequitur. And discussing the poster instead of the topic. If you'd tossed in some ad hominem attacks, you could have scored the trifecta. :D

You posted a made-up statistic: that AA flew a route for 10 years and lost $45 million per year for each and every year of that decade. Your implication was that management was so incompetent that it lost $450 million over a decade on a loser route.

On the verifiable facts - AA flew the route for just over six years when AA announced the cancellation of the route. When the route began, fuel was just half the price it was when it was cancelled.

The other part: the alleged loss of $45 million each and every year? AA never publicly said it lost $45 million per year nor has any analyst even alleged it. One analyst said last May that DEL lost $40 million/year and even he didn't specify the number of years of losses.

My post had nothing to do with who was at "fault."

If it makes you feel better, then yes, managment was at fault for flying to DEL. Managment was at fault for all of AA's losses.

Doesn't change the fact that AA's labor costs have been higher than UA, CO, DL or US during that period. Doesn't change the fact that EK is a formidable competitor for traffic to India. That state-owned airline has 90 A380s on order and already flies several daily USA-DXB flights with more to come.

Disagreements about opinons are expected. Posting made up "facts" as justifications for those opinions? Why not just post the actual facts?

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View PostFWAAA, on 17 February 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

“AA's labor costs have been higher than UA, CO, DL or US…”

Right now I believe the APFA is seeking to maintain our pay scales--not increase them. I believe they are realistic.
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WONDERFUL NEWS!!!!! No furloughs on 01APR!!!!!

MAILBOX MESSAGES FOR: PASS 593544
U3Y QFL 3D61F8
22FEB12/1140
TO: ALL FLIGHT ATTENDANTS
RE: VOLUNTARY OPTIONS CLOSED - NO APRIL 1 FURLOUGH
.
THE OVERAGE LEAVE AND PARTNERSHIP FLYING PROFFERS CLOSED THIS
MORNING AND WE ARE PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE SUFFICIENT REQUESTS WERE
RECEIVED TO OFFSET FURLOUGHS ON APRIL 1. FINAL DETAILS WILL BE
AVAILABLE THURSDAY FEB. 23 AT 1600 CT.
.
FLIGHT ATTENDANTS WHO RECEIVED SUBJECT TO FURLOUGH LETTERS
(EFFECTIVE APRIL 1) EARLIER THIS MONTH, WILL RECEIVE LETTERS
EARLY NEXT WEEK ADVISING THEM THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER SUBJECT
TO FURLOUGH.
.
CATHY SCHEU - MANAGING DIRECTOR, FLIGHT SERVICE 22FEB12
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View Postjimntx, on 22 February 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

WONDERFUL NEWS! No furloughs on 01APR...
Whoo Hoo! :D
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Very happy that there won't be any furlough April 1




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