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[flybynite]

usfliboi, on 01 February 2012 - 06:08 PM, said:

Her loyality is with the pilots... She wants the F/A group to send a message because she wants to take up for her other half.... Politics.... I hate Politics! Just saying .. Nothing personal though towards her Im sure she is a great wife!

Well, ya know, you might want to take that up with her.....Sounds like you're just trying to get real personal..which in this case is just not called for.

We have a lot to go over and taking pot shots at one of our LEC presidents is just uncool.

Go home and sleep it off.

[yvrusfa]

The AFA MEC/LEC recommendations of "neutral" are to be expected nowadays!  

Since 2001 or so and all the industry BK's, furloughs, givebacks etc...councils are quite reluctant to send out a "yes" stamp on TA's lest they get major egg on their faces and/or general backlash. It is much less trouble (and i would argue more democratic) to let the membership decide after full presentation of facts. It is just the way it is anymore. I believe the new UA AFA TA went out without a
"Yes" recommendation as well?

If I am wrong on that please correct.    Anyway it could be that WN has sent out "yes" recs on theirs' but that would be expected I suppose. When every agreement contains (often) significant improvements it is easier.

[usfliboi]

flybynite, on 01 February 2012 - 06:17 PM, said:

Well, ya know, you might want to take that up with her.....Sounds like you're just trying to get real personal..which in this case is just not called for.

We have a lot to go over and taking pot shots at one of our LEC presidents is just uncool.

Go home and sleep it off.

No pot shots...just saying what will happen in my humble opinion!  I stand by my comments!

[galley princess]

usfliboi, on 01 February 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

No pot shots...just saying what will happen in my humble opinion!  I stand by my comments!

I am always somewhat amused when f/as trash union leaders.

I may not agree with much or anything at times, but as far as I am concerned, kudos to them for doing a job that I would last all of five minutes in.

Trying to advocate for this rowdy bunch?  Fuggedaboutit.

IMHO, it is absolutely vital that whatever the vote is, the turnout be high.  If it's a NO< then it should be a resounding NO, not a whimper.

If it's a YES, then the same should apply.  We haven't all waited seven years to allow someone else to make the decision.  And remember, it has been a long seven years, don't sell yourself or other FAs short.  We deserve an industry standard wage and benefits, and we do not deserve to take ANY concessions.  


VOTE.

[Phoenix]

usfliboi, on 01 February 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Dear Members,
JOINT MEC MEETING CONCLUDES WITH DECISION TO SEND THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT TO THE  MEMBERS FOR A RATIFICATION VOTE

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JOINT MEC MEETING CONCLUDES WITH DECISION TO SEND THE TENTATIVE AGREEMENT TO THE  MEMBERS FOR A RATIFICATION VOTE



The members of the East and West Master Executive Councils (MEC) concluded two days of meetings in CLT to review the Tentative Agreement and make a decision whether or not to send the TA to the members for a ratification vote.  



The voting members of the East MEC are:

Council 41 Local President, Dianne Britton
Council 70 Local President, Terry Graf
Council 89 Local President, Cathy Campbell

Council 70 President Terry Graf made a motion for the East MEC to send the TA out for a ratification vote with a "neutral" recommendation. Council 41 President Dianne Britton seconded the motion. The vote was 2 to 1 with Council 89 President Cathy Campbell voting no on the motion.  



Ms. Campbell declared a "division of the house" - a parliamentary procedure to clarify her vote. Ms. Campbell stated she voted no on the motion because although she was in favor of sending the TA out for a vote she wanted it on record that she was recommending that members of Council 89 vote "NO" for the TA.



Because the motion carried 2-1, the TA will be sent to the East members for a ratification vote.



West MEC President, Deborah Volpe voted to send the TA to the members of Council 66 for a ratification vote.



The process of ratification will now begin. Initially you will receive a summary of the TA followed by, a more thorough discussion. The entire TA will be posted on the AFA web sites and on Wings. An extensive road show schedule is being planned. More information will be made available beginning tomorrow.  



Thank you,



The US Airways Master Executive Council

AFA-CWA

I'm sorry but any elected union "leader" that can't muster a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" deserves the same fate that the milk toast ALPOIDS received.  You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that if ever the membership should vote "NO" it is now.

[fodase]

Phoenix, on 01 February 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

I'm sorry but any elected union "leader" that can't muster a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" deserves the same fate that the milk toast ALPOIDS received.  You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that if ever the membership should vote "NO" it is now.

Maybe the east pilot's can show them how it's done. lol clowns.

[traderjake]

Phoenix, on 01 February 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that if ever the membership should vote "NO" it is now.

A pilot telling a F/A how they should vote.

Is there no limit to what a pilot "knows"?

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Phoenix, on 01 February 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

I'm sorry but any elected union "leader" that can't muster a "thumbs up" or "thumbs down" deserves the same fate that the milk toast ALPOIDS received.  You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that if ever the membership should vote "NO" it is now.

As usual you have no idea of what reality is.