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[FADECFAULT]

at03, on 01 January 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Ever get tired of beating the same dead horse. Maybe you should have been on your committee, maybe they didn't want you, or you may just like to complain and not do anything about it. Its not fair, its not fair. There I said it for you. Yeah I know "aquired not hired" heard that one too, maybe not from you but your cohorts. Ill have t shirts made so you can save your breath. This far into this, thought we would be getting somewhere. Guess not.I don't think I can squeeze it all on there. Maybe Ill just put BOHICA. That should sum it up.

Just put that nut job on ignore...

[AvTech04]

Whoa, whoa!! Where is all this coming from!?!? I know this is stressful for all of us but insulting eachother isn't going to fix anything... Even though it' makes for an entertaining read... Let's just lay it all out there, facts!!

1) SWA mechs do not eBay AT mechs to have any seniority!

2) AT mechs put in a lot of blood and sweat to earn that seniority, just as some of the SWA mechs have!!

3) AT mechs are getting pay raises, but that comes with the job!!

You know what I'm, tired of trying to play peace keeper here.. You guys just #### and moan amongst yourselves... I'll post on here of I hear anything change, but from now on, I'm just going to keep to myself... It just seems like SWA and AMFA mechs are battling eachother and we are in the middle of it because SWA mechs are the shelfish to share, like kindergarteners with a toy, "it's mine, not yours, my daddy bought this for me",... And it feels like I arguing, constantly, with children that have that attitude.. Not worth my stress and time.

I'm leavin here with, DOH is the only fair way to merge a seniority list for people that do the same job! If we @ AT vote in anything other than DOH then we are giving SWA mechs a peace offering for a better future, but it's not becaue you deserve it, it's just to appease you.

Hope you all have a happy new year, AT, SWA, UAL, DAL, etc... Hopefully out airlines are fruitful in their endeavors and we all have a job for 2013!

[xUT]

buscador, on 01 January 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

I stopped beating that dead horse ,, well until the AT guys performed CPR on that horse to bring it back alive talking DOH... take some accountability here... one second AT talks rationally about a %30 hit and no LOA's and then the next day we start hearing AT guys spouting DOH only ,, save your shirt making ideas,,, we are past the hired not aquired/ we bought you/ etc.... a little courtesy and god forbid a complimentary comment from more than just Avtech would go a long way,, I have beat that dead horse and still I cant find a breath of rational in the last week or so,, ,, so maybe we all should give up,, its simple,,,,,, No LOA's,,one time seniority hit,, and move on,,, get it done,, tell your AT bretheren ,,

To think you guys were so close,, then to see it all slip away,, but your right,, its all the SWA mechs fault,, they are arrogant, they are demanding and here AT sits just being the nice guy... come to think of it I have never read a disrespectful comment from one AT employee... the word that comes to mind is SAINTS,, and not from new orleans

YOU didn't buy anything!
You are an employee, nothing more, nothing less.
xUT

[num1bearsfan]

xUT, on 01 January 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

YOU didn't buy anything!
You are an employee, nothing more, nothing less.
xUT

What's all of this employee/employer talk? Let's talk about who you employ..

[lineguy]

at03, on 01 January 2012 - 04:32 AM, said:

Ever get tired of beating the same dead horse. Maybe you should have been on your committee, maybe they didn't want you, or you may just like to complain and not do anything about it. Its not fair, its not fair. There I said it for you. Yeah I know "aquired not hired" heard that one too, maybe not from you but your cohorts. Ill have t shirts made so you can save your breath. This far into this, thought we would be getting somewhere. Guess not.I don't think I can squeeze it all on there. Maybe Ill just put BOHICA. That should sum it up.

[buscador]

xUT, on 01 January 2012 - 05:01 PM, said:

YOU didn't buy anything!
You are an employee, nothing more, nothing less.
xUT

you are correct, could be your only correct post,,, congradulations,,, we SWA employees didnt buy anything but we sure are paying,,, w headaches and with our seniority,, while your AT employees didnt buy anything either but you wont be complaining with the 30k$ a year EXTRA you get without giving up a damn thing,, but no thats not selfish, you deserve it of course,,,.... yea that is righteous of you ,,, and you have the audacity to ask for DOH,,, dont waive your lottery ticket in my face,,

Sweet deal for AT , take a mediocre airline at BEST,,,and get bought out,, you went from a yugo to a mercedes,, only in the airline biz can that injustice occur..

I know its crazy, but take your yugo or saturn into the mercedes dealer,, explain you want to upgrade,,tell them ou will be giving up absolutley nothing and they better like it,, and you want all the bells and whistles that go with a premium Mercedes,,, see how the salesman looks at you!!! then as he is politely kicking you out of the store all you have to do is say,, but I am AT,, I deserve it.....see how your rationale works out in the real world,,,

[AvTech04]

buscador, on 03 January 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

you are correct, could be your only correct post,,, congradulations,,, we SWA employees didnt buy anything but we sure are paying,,, w headaches and with our seniority,, while your AT employees didnt buy anything either but you wont be complaining with the 30k$ a year EXTRA you get without giving up a damn thing,, but no thats not selfish, you deserve it of course,,,.... yea that is righteous of you ,,, and you have the audacity to ask for DOH,,, dont waive your lottery ticket in my face,,

Sweet deal for AT , take a mediocre airline at BEST,,,and get bought out,, you went from a yugo to a mercedes,, only in the airline biz can that injustice occur..

I know its crazy, but take your yugo or saturn into the mercedes dealer,, explain you want to upgrade,,tell them ou will be giving up absolutley nothing and they better like it,, and you want all the bells and whistles that go with a premium Mercedes,,, see how the salesman looks at you!!! then as he is politely kicking you out of the store all you have to do is say,, but I am AT,, I deserve it.....see how your rationale works out in the real world,,,

That's quite enough with the insults!! Now you're just being a selfish little brat throwing a temper tantrum like a 2 year old that has nothing intelligent left to say so you're going to start insulting the 'other guy'!! First, to compare SWA to a Mercedes is impractical and is outright delusional!! The only thing SWA has in comparison to a Mercedes is that they get maintained outside the United States!! Hell, even a Mercedes has traveled over water once or twice, unlike a SWA jet!!! If you really want to compare SWA to an automotive manufacture, then maybe you'd compare them to Ford when they were having the tire blow outs that we're causing their explorers to flip over!! AT may have not been a perfect airline, but we ALL busted our asses to make it what it is today, and continue to do so!!!! So to insult them and call AirTran mediocre at best is a direct insult to me and my co-workers!!!

That's one thing that no AT employee has done on this forum, and that's to insult SWA and it's people! But Buscador has the audacity to continuously compare and demise AT like we are a some evil hearted spirit because all we want is what we feel and believe is fair.

We didn't ask for any of this! We were just fine the way we were! hell, compare AT to SWA when SWA was just 18 yrs old and SWA only had to pay pennies on a gallon of fuel and see has made off better!! Year for year, from the start of SWA compared to the start of AT, AT has surpassed SWA in virtually every aspect! Pay, benefits, routes, baggage, load factor, etc... And AT did most of this with the high fuel load and post 9/11!! I mean, SWA doesn't even have a reservation system to handle an international route! Their crews aren't trained in water survival! This list can go on forever....

You brought me back into this forum under horrid circumstances and for that, you get the finger! STOP WITH THE INSULTS!!! Insulting AT is an insult to its employees that have ALL worked their asses off to make it what it is...

Now, stay on topic, make rational posts that actually contribute to a possibility to a positive outcome or don't say nothing at all!

[swa1963]

AvTech04, on 03 January 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

That's quite enough with the insults!! Now you're just being a selfish little brat throwing a temper tantrum like a 2 year old that has nothing intelligent left to say so you're going to start insulting the 'other guy'!! First, to compare SWA to a Mercedes is impractical and is outright delusional!! The only thing SWA has in comparison to a Mercedes is that they get maintained outside the United States!! Hell, even a Mercedes has traveled over water once or twice, unlike a SWA jet!!! If you really want to compare SWA to an automotive manufacture, then maybe you'd compare them to Ford when they were having the tire blow outs that we're causing their explorers to flip over!! AT may have not been a perfect airline, but we ALL busted our asses to make it what it is today, and continue to do so!!!! So to insult them and call AirTran mediocre at best is a direct insult to me and my co-workers!!!

That's one thing that no AT employee has done on this forum, and that's to insult SWA and it's people! But Buscador has the audacity to continuously compare and demise AT like we are a some evil hearted spirit because all we want is what we feel and believe is fair.

We didn't ask for any of this! We were just fine the way we were! hell, compare AT to SWA when SWA was just 18 yrs old and SWA only had to pay pennies on a gallon of fuel and see has made off better!! Year for year, from the start of SWA compared to the start of AT, AT has surpassed SWA in virtually every aspect! Pay, benefits, routes, baggage, load factor, etc... And AT did most of this with the high fuel load and post 9/11!! I mean, SWA doesn't even have a reservation system to handle an international route! Their crews aren't trained in water survival! This list can go on forever....

You brought me back into this forum under horrid circumstances and for that, you get the finger! STOP WITH THE INSULTS!!! Insulting AT is an insult to its employees that have ALL worked their asses off to make it what it is...

Now, stay on topic, make rational posts that actually contribute to a possibility to a positive outcome or don't say nothing at all!

WOW! everyone is so touchy now! Southwest Airlines Being the Mercedes of the Airline industry! you never could tell from all the selfish mechanics I run into here at work! We have a Me Me Me attitude. Everday how many of you sit around work all day Bitchin about pay, OT/ bypass , outsourcing maintenance, taking Sickations, daytrading just to get the free 24 PDR. bitching about working too hard. Southwest is just stealing from you, But we want Air Tran to appreciate all this and be grateful for what we have no control over. We get nothing out of this? Give me a break! We already got ours and many of us here don't even appreciate it, nevermind whether we deserve it or not! When Southwest Airlines makes a profit. we don't get anything? Empty them rocks from your heads and lets stick to Seniority Intergration nothing else. Maybe we would be farther along if we thought more like Business men ( Like the Pilots do) intstead id the 1950's Union thugs we could think a little better!