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[john john]

eolesen, on 18 May 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

DOJ has no standing in this issue,

DOJ has no "standing" in federal matters

[eolesen]

john john, on 19 May 2012 - 05:12 PM, said:

DOJ has no "standing" in federal matters

Federal courts enjoy the sole power to interpret the law, determine the constitutionality of the law, and apply it to individual cases.

The DOJ is part of the Executive Branch. They do not get to interpret the law, determine the constitutionality of the law, or apply it to individual cases.

[aapitbull]

eolesen, on 19 May 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

Chris, they're hardly exempt. They lost the total value of their stock options when the stock fell below the strike price, and it evaporated once the company filed. Gone. No recourse. For some, that's 30-50% of their compensation from the past couple years. That's the risk management takes with variable comp. No risk, no reward.

The difference being that when we exit BK they will start awarding stock to most of the fine individuals to make up for what they lost but not for those of us that actually work for a living. And when you and your REP friends get thru giving 90% of the wealth to 10% of the people we will all be out of a job and no I am not a Dem I am a Ind would not piss on either of them if they where on fire.

[BoeingBoy]

Not exactly true. If it were the unions wouldn't have seats on the UCC...

Jim

[john john]

eolesen, on 19 May 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

The DOJ is part of the Executive Branch. They do not get to interpret the law, determine the constitutionality of the law, or apply it to individual cases.

I’m sorry I thought they enforce the law and defend the interests of the United States according to the law

[BoeingBoy]

You're partially right - the DOJ includes agencies like the FBI, DEA, US Marshals Service, and ATF which enforce federal laws but the DOJ itself or the Attorney General is basically the government's lawyer. That role is no different than a lawyer you hire.

As eolesen said, Congress makes laws and the Judiciary determines the constitutionality of those laws and how they apply to specific cases.

Jim