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[fixindaplane]

swamt, on 18 February 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

So then, why the move of Frontier back to Denver? Or is maint. staying in MKE? I thought I read that maint. was relocating back to Denver if Denver was willing to still offer what it offered to keep Frontier from leaving Denver.
Your correct, I don't work for Frontier or Republic. But I do work for SWA who is watching the Rep/Frontier debacle with a microscope, and ready to pounce at any time, SWA might be the new parent co. to Frontier in the future. Never say Never...

If so then there goes all the people and equipment.SWA just wants the gates and the Mexico routes. The ads where Southwest says how much they love Denver make my skin crawl. "We love you Denver, but we want to put a bunch of you out of work!"
The only thing that is coming back is the G.O. management. MKE is kaput.

[swamt]

fixindaplane, on 18 February 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:

If so then there goes all the people and equipment.SWA just wants the gates and the Mexico routes. The ads where Southwest says how much they love Denver make my skin crawl. "We love you Denver, but we want to put a bunch of you out of work!"
The only thing that is coming back is the G.O. management. MKE is kaput.

Roger that. 10-4 Thnx for the update. So if MKE is done, what is going to happen with the maint.? Will they start farming it all out, and use contract maint. everywhere?

[jimntx]

swamt, on 15 February 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

And how many flight crews are willing to relocate again with a failing airline? All the employees have been disrupted once, and now, they going to be disrupted again, just after getting re-settled from the 1st disruption.

Actually, I was wrong on my earlier post. I talked with my friend who flies for Frontier. The "employees being relocated" are employees of Republic, but not Frontier, who are being relocated because of a reduction in RJ flying at MKE (which is a result of eliminating the Frontier flights at MKE). I got the impression for talking with her that even now there are no "Frontier" flight crews based at MKE. There are some rj crews that for seniority list purposes are "Frontier", but they do not fly "Frontier" equipment. The single carrier certificate applies only to the merging of the seniority lists.

This is getting more complicated than the US Airways merger.

[swamt]

jimntx, on 21 February 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

Actually, I was wrong on my earlier post. I talked with my friend who flies for Frontier. The "employees being relocated" are employees of Republic, but not Frontier, who are being relocated because of a reduction in RJ flying at MKE (which is a result of eliminating the Frontier flights at MKE). I got the impression for talking with her that even now there are no "Frontier" flight crews based at MKE. There are some rj crews that for seniority list purposes are "Frontier", but they do not fly "Frontier" equipment. The single carrier certificate applies only to the merging of the seniority lists.

This is getting more complicated than the US Airways merger.

Wow. your not kidding. Sounds complicated. Thx for the correction.

[fixindaplane]

swamt, on 21 February 2012 - 10:22 AM, said:

Roger that. 10-4 Thnx for the update. So if MKE is done, what is going to happen with the maint.? Will they start farming it all out, and use contract maint. everywhere?

All Republic techs will be laid off. But they have been asked to train Frontier techs to replace them.

[ThirdSeatHero]

In a recent teamsters update, they claim they are starting negotiations for Mechanics at Frontier.

I was under the impression that when Republic first bought Frontier that the teamsters didn't have enough mechanic members at frontier to trigger an election on Republic, and they therfore would've gone non-union.

Whats the story?

[BoeingBoy]

ThirdSeatHero, on 04 March 2012 - 09:47 PM, said:

Whats the story?

According to Republic's last annual report covering 2010 (a new one should be available before long) the Teamsters represent the pilots, most of the FA's (AFA represents about 1/3), mechanics, cleaners, and "material specialists" (you'd know better than me who they are).

Jim

[fixindaplane]

BoeingBoy, on 05 March 2012 - 07:07 AM, said:

According to Republic's last annual report covering 2010 (a new one should be available before long) the Teamsters represent the pilots, most of the FA's (AFA represents about 1/3), mechanics, cleaners, and "material specialists" (you'd know better than me who they are).

Jim

Teamsters represent Frontier employees but not Republic employees. Republic Airways was very careful to keep these work groups apart. I for one am glad of that. I was a Lynx mechanic and was able to switch over to being a Republic mechanic by basically just changing uniforms. We got to negotiate our seniority integration ourselves without any union interference which made the process fair and quick. As far as I can tell Frontier mechanics are angry most of the time and pay the teamsters lots of money every month for almost invisible representation.