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Anne McNamara (former General Counsel for AMR) was on the board of directors for the American Arbitration Association (AAA).

Perhaps FWAAA or TWAnr want to comment on the professional ramifications, but the claims of the AAA allowing rigging or other intentional improprieties to take place is nothing but a red herring. I don't know of any lawyer who will risk their license (or their reputation) just to promote their former company's agenda.

It's also stated on their website "No special treatment of any kind is given to neutrals or directors when or if they do file cases or use election services. AAA employees are held to the AAA Standards of Ethics and Business Conduct requiring impartiality in providing AAA administrative services. "

You can read the full text at http://www.adr.org/sp.asp?id=22036

Now, whether or not there was rigging on the part of the unions or the company is another story, as are the questions over just how random PIN generation was, but I don't think AAA did anything intentionally stupid or illegal.

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The title of this thread instantly made me think of this...

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What?!?!?!!!

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View Posteolesen, on Jun 6 2007, 12:36 AM, said:

Anne McNamara (former General Counsel for AMR) was on the board of directors for the American Arbitration Association (AAA).

Perhaps FWAAA or TWAnr want to comment on the professional ramifications, but the claims of the AAA allowing rigging or other intentional improprieties to take place is nothing but a red herring. I don't know of any lawyer who will risk their license (or their reputation) just to promote their former company's agenda.

It's also stated on their website "No special treatment of any kind is given to neutrals or directors when or if they do file cases or use election services. AAA employees are held to the AAA Standards of Ethics and Business Conduct requiring impartiality in providing AAA administrative services. "

You can read the full text at http://www.adr.org/sp.asp?id=22036

Now, whether or not there was rigging on the part of the unions or the company is another story, as are the questions over just how random PIN generation was, but I don't think AAA did anything intentionally stupid or illegal.

That would depend entirely on the amount of money involved, wouldn't it?

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View Posteolesen, on Jun 6 2007, 05:36 AM, said:

I don't know of any lawyer who will risk their license (or their reputation) just to promote their former company's agenda.

I believe Ms McNamara was also a senior VP and one of the SERP beneficiaries. After retiring from AA, she was paid by AA as a consultant until May 2003. Nice timing, that.

So, she had conflict of interest there, both as a retiree with a stake in the company's finances, and as a paid consultant.

Her husband, Philip Purcell was a member of AMR's board of directors. He was subject to some harsh comment by the chairman of the SEC over that connection.

So, Ms McNamara had a little conflict of interest there, too.


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. AAA employees are held to the AAA Standards of Ethics and Business Conduct requiring impartiality in providing AAA administrative services.

Apparently they have a pretty flexible ethics standards where conflict of interest is concerned. Or maybe directors are above the so-called standards of ethics.
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View Post767 mechanic, on Jun 5 2007, 10:49 PM, said:

Bear I realize that the bases are the majority of the problem. Although it was not by very much,AFW voted no. The majority of the yes voters came from 530-KC and 514-Tulsa. Tulsa voted 68% yes and KC voted 73% yes. Chuck mentioned fear facture and I agree Chicken Little didn't have the balls to show up at the 2nd largest local (AFW). He decided to send his flunky lawyer. We had a group of about 10 people from AFW that went to Tulsa to pass out fliers at the Brady Theater in Tulsa when Chicken Little showed up for his fear campaign. The 514 was informed informed of their intention and arrival in advance by one of the people in the group and they were not allowed in. I don't know of any other union/local that would not allow a member in good standings in to another locals meeting.


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767 mechanic,

THANK YOU for correcting/informing me !!!

I will NEVER make that mistake again, I promise(about AFW)

For a base(AFW), with all of the people there, located "deep in the heart of Texas", to have the courage to vote NO(because the contract SUCKED), to me SPEAKS VOLUMES.

I SINCERELY hope that you and your fellow brothers and sister union members, take GREAT PRIDE by distancing yourselves from the COWARDS in TUL and MCI.

Again, feel proud, you DESERVE IT !!


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One LAST question.
What is the DFW local, for line AMT's ??

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View PostWretched Wrench, on Jun 5 2007, 06:17 PM, said:

So, then, were all 44 votes on the chart cast by mechanics?

Yes. I was asked to put out Title I numbers and 590 shows those numbers for Title I.

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View PostWretched Wrench, on Jun 6 2007, 03:16 AM, said:

I believe Ms McNamara was also a senior VP and one of the SERP beneficiaries. After retiring from AA, she was paid by AA as a consultant until May 2003. Nice timing, that.

She retired in Feb 2003, and the three month consultant gig is fairly standard in senior positions to allow for turnover.

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So, she had conflict of interest there, both as a retiree with a stake in the company's finances, and as a paid consultant.

Absolutely, she had a conflict of interest. But that doesn't mean she had any involvement with the actual work that AAA was conducting, and it shouldn't rule out using AAA's services. Lawyers and judges recuse themselves all the time when there's even a hint of conflict, so I would expect the same to have held true in this case.

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Her husband, Philip Purcell was a member of AMR's board of directors. He was subject to some harsh comment by the chairman of the SEC over that connection.

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that connection. When did they get married in relation to his nomination to the board?

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View PostNewHampshire Black Bears, on Jun 6 2007, 03:32 AM, said:

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One LAST question.
What is the DFW local, for line AMT's ??

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