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	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>New - US Pilots Labor Discussion</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53440-new-us-pilots-labor-discussion/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Well...It turns out that posts with nearly 5000 pages of replies can really bog a server down. Closing the old one and starting another. Continued from the other discussion.<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Tulsa Union Leaders in the News</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53452-tulsa-union-leaders-in-the-news/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.newson6.com/story/18421730/waiting-on-transport-workers-union-vote-tally-on-americans-last-best-offer' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.newson6.com/story/18421730/waiting-on-transport-workers-union-vote-tally-on-americans-last-best-offer</a><br />
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<a href='http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/voting-ends-on-contract-proposal-by-american-airlines-results-expected-mid-morning' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.kjrh.com/dpp/news/local_news/voting-ends-on-contract-proposal-by-american-airlines-results-expected-mid-morning</a><br />
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<a href='http://www.ktul.com/story/18423995/mechanics-vote-against-last-best-offer' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.ktul.com/story/18423995/mechanics-vote-against-last-best-offer</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 22:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>WHERE are the Local by Local RESULTS  ?  STOP hiding Info.  !</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53472-where-are-the-local-by-local-results-stop-hiding-info/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Someone's got to have a buddy on the 'inside' (514 union hall)<br />
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Hopeful, what are you hearing on the #'s of the 562 vote ?<br />
Also, what local is Boston title 1 in ?<br />
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Thanx]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53472-where-are-the-local-by-local-results-stop-hiding-info/</guid>
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		<title>TOMMORROW WE BEGIN!</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53431-tommorrow-we-begin/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Tomorrow's the day we begin the process of ridding ourselves of the TWU. We need to decide which union and get the ball rolling.<br />
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Whatever the results are of the vote, we need to say goodbye to the TWU.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>New product and synergy ideas</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53466-new-product-and-synergy-ideas/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[With spiraling into mgmt sucks I thought it would be fun to talk about new products and airport synergies.<br />
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For example - with the number of flights between th following routes should the shuttle become a national product:<br />
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Dfw-LAX<br />
DFW-ORD<br />
oRD-DCA<br />
ORD-LGA<br />
ORD-BOS<br />
DFW-MIA<br />
MIA-LGA<br />
Etc<br />
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How many routes can go from rj's to mainline due to overlap - both airlines are flying between these cities but with rj's<br />
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PIT-STL<br />
CLT-JFK<br />
RDU-LGA<br />
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How many airports can AA exit their leases since US has enough gates<br />
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PIT<br />
MSY<br />
RIC<br />
MCO<br />
JAX<br />
BOS<br />
GSO<br />
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How many airports will AA be able to exit leases of airport counters<br />
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PDX<br />
RIC<br />
DCA<br />
<br />
How many international flights can be added due to more wide bodies<br />
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PHX-NRT<br />
PHL-HKG<br />
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Lastly, Philly international should run smoother with all of those AA gates]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Station Visit for Grievance Committee election process Phoenix with District Lodge 142 General Chairman, Randy Griffith.</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53476-station-visit-for-grievance-committee-election-process-phoenix-with-district-lodge-142-general-chairman-randy-griffith/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Members, Stewards, & Unionists,<br />
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Below is the details for a planned Station Visit for Phoenix with District Lodge 142 General Chairman, Randy Griffith and Local Lodge 2559 President, Melissa Campbell. Please see that your peers are aware of this visit.<br />
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Good afternoon,<br />
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I have arranged for Local Lodge President, Melissa Campbell and myself to visit the hangar and line this Friday. We will be there to address the questions regarding the Grievance Committee election process and the events that have transpired relating to the recent nominations.<br />
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We will meet in the hangar break room at approx. 1:00pm then proceed to the Line if possible.<br />
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Please let any interested parties (GSE, Stores, Interiors, Engine Shop, Back Shops etc.) know of this meeting as it is open to all.<br />
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<br />
Randy Griffith<br />
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IAM District 142<br />
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General Chairman]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53476-station-visit-for-grievance-committee-election-process-phoenix-with-district-lodge-142-general-chairman-randy-griffith/</guid>
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		<title>New - IAM Fleet Service Discussion</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53460-new-iam-fleet-service-discussion/</link>
		<description>New IAM Fleet Service Discussion (For Server Optimization)</description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53460-new-iam-fleet-service-discussion/</guid>
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		<title>Proposed AA-US Merger Articles</title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53248-proposed-aa-us-merger-articles/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<strong class='bbc'>US Airways Said to Approach AMR Bondholders on Merger</strong><br />
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Click <a href='http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2012-04-24/us-airways-said-to-approach-amr-bondholders-on-merger.html?cmpid=yhoo' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>here</a> to read the story.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>AMR unions keep focus on merger talks</strong><br />
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Click <a href='http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL2E8FOA6J20120424?irpc=43' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>here</a> to read the story.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>US Airways Jumps Ahead Of Earnings, Spotlight On American Acquisition</strong><br />
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Click <a href='http://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculations/2012/04/24/us-airways-jumps-ahead-of-earnings-spotlight-on-american-acquisition/?partner=yahootix' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>here</a> to read the story.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[MIT Airline Researcher Swelbar Challenges Parker's Merger Proposal]]></title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53468-mit-airline-researcher-swelbar-challenges-parkers-merger-proposal/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Bill Swelbars's Swelbog column from yesterday raises serious questions about the sustainability of Parkers merger plan.<br />
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<a href='http://www.swelblog.com/articles/musings-from-the-last-five-weeks.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.swelblog.com/articles/musings-from-the-last-five-weeks.html</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://airlineforums.com/topic/53468-mit-airline-researcher-swelbar-challenges-parkers-merger-proposal/</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA[United FA's meet the Bus...]]></title>
		<link>http://airlineforums.com/topic/51288-united-fas-meet-the-bus/</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hows that saying go? <br />
<br />
Elections have consequences? <br />
and<br />
What union protection?<br />
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<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'><strong class='bbc'>AFA's Refusal to Allow UA Cross-over to Staff CO</strong><br />
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Sam Risoli<br />
Senior Vice President<br />
Inflight Services<br />
 <br />
July 12, 2011<br />
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To all Flight Attendants,<br />
 <br />
As we announced in the spring, based on current flying projections the United subsidiary may have roughly 1,800 excess flight attendants when the current voluntary furlough ends March 2, 2012.<br />
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At the same time, the Continental subsidiary needs to add approximately 900 flight attendants to staff aircraft the Continental subsidiary ordered prior to the merger. Those aircraft will be delivered next year, so we must plan for the staffing now. Our collective bargaining agreements restrict flight attendants to working flights on their own subsidiary’s aircraft.<br />
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We are committed to negotiating a fair joint collective bargaining agreement that covers the combined United and Continental flight attendants. When that is complete, we don’t expect to have a staffing imbalance, but we cannot predict how long it will take to negotiate that agreement and we need to begin the training process very soon. United proposed the voluntary “cross-over” program to address this potential staffing imbalance in a mutually beneficial way.<br />
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Under the voluntary “cross-over” program, subsidiary United flight attendants could voluntarily transfer to the Continental subsidiary. These flight attendants would join Continental at the bottom of the current Continental seniority list, but also retain and accrue their United seniority for purposes of integration of all flight attendants on a single seniority list. They would also receive CO rates of pay based on their current seniority. The idea was to offer certain advantages to interested United flight attendants with an opportunity to work without risk of involuntary furlough.<br />
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I thought it made sense to offer this opportunity to our current flight attendants first, before we fill the Continental vacancies externally. This approach is also consistent with the approach we have taken with other work groups including pilots and mechanics. Over the last month, I heard positive feedback from many of you, and some of you told me that you would be interested in transferring if given the chance.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>I am disappointed to report to you that AFA rejected this cross-over proposal. Thus, we will not be able to offer the program, and we will immediately move to hire and train new Continental flight attendants from outside the company.</strong><br />
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We will continue to make it our priority to let you know about changes and issues that impact you. Should you have any questions, please contact your Base Management.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
Sam</div></div>
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As mentioned by another on FB: <br />
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<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Remember this next time a unionist tries to talk about job security. I mean, have you ever heard of a <strong class='bbc'>union forcing management to lay off the very employees that union represents? </strong>This is the freaking twilight zone... And sadly, it's exactly the sort of thing we've come to expect.</div></div>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 19:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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